Friday, October 01, 2004
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Roberto,
Thanks. I knew you'd have a word or two on the subject. Calling names ("Yankee Law professor ass") are useless. Why are you neocons so adept at that? Apply your energies to the issue at hand, and concentrate, instead, on getting your just due.
Sorry about your Mother and Grandmother. I've been there. For nine years, I was practically the sole caregiver for my wife who suffered diabetes, kidney failure and congestive heart failure. It hurt emotionally, physically,and psychologically to see your loved ones deteriorate and suffer horribly. There is one consolation. I believe they are in a better place and not suffering any longer.
Keep in touch,
Oscar
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Roberto,
Thanks. I knew you'd have a word or two on the subject. Calling names ("Yankee Law professor ass") are useless. Why are you neocons so adept at that? Apply your energies to the issue at hand, and concentrate, instead, on getting your just due.
Sorry about your Mother and Grandmother. I've been there. For nine years, I was practically the sole caregiver for my wife who suffered diabetes, kidney failure and congestive heart failure. It hurt emotionally, physically,and psychologically to see your loved ones deteriorate and suffer horribly. There is one consolation. I believe they are in a better place and not suffering any longer.
Keep in touch,
Oscar
AFTER BASKING IN THE GLOW OF THE FAILURE OF "CUBA WEEK" ORGANIZERS'S TO BRING THEIR FIDELISTAS TO TOWN SO THEY COULD MEET UP WITH CHARLES STEELE, I HAVE BEEN WAKENED FROM MY SLUMBER BY THE ACTIVITY OF ONE ALFRED BROPHY.
"ACADEMIC SHITHEADS" NOW PROUDLY PRESENTS THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MYSELF AND BROPHY.
SEE IF YOU CAN FIND THE WORD "APOLOGY" OR "REPARATIONS" IN ANY OF THESE DOCUMENTS.
TO PARAPHRASE "LYNYRD SKYNYRD", " I HOPE BROPHY WILL REMEMBER, A SOUTHERN MAN DON'T NEED HIM AROUND ANYHOW!!!!"
# posted by roberto @ 8:30 AM
From :
Reply-To : abrophy@law.ua.edu
Sent : Monday, March 8, 2004 10:00 PM
To : robertoreg@hotmail.com
Subject : your research on slave quarters at UA?
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Dear Mr. Register,
Ben Windham of the Tuscaloosa News tells me that you've done
some important work on slave quarters on the UA campus. I'd be
most appreciative if you would point me to the place on your blog
where you discuss your work--or if you have a paper to share, I'd
appreciate that as well.
I'm giving a talk in a couple of weeks on slavery at the UA--based
largely on trustee minutes and Manly's diary, but also on Sellers
and A. James Fuller's biography of Manly and a couple of other
secondary sources. I'd like to add something on slave quarters.
Best wishes, Alfred
Alfred L. Brophy, Professor of Law
University of Alabama
101 Bryant Drive East
Box 870382
Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0382
Facsimile: 205.348.5829
Voice: 205.348.0841 abrophy@law.ua.edu
# posted by roberto @ 8:07 AM
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:19:45 AM | robert register | edit ]
From :
Reply-To : abrophy@law.ua.edu
Sent : Saturday, March 20, 2004 5:59 PM
To : "robert register"
Subject : Re: Opening a Can of Worms and Finding Rattlesnakes In the Bottom of It
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Thanks, Robert. I appreciate your kindness in helping out--and
really appreciate that we can talk, even if we disagree on certain
issues.
I'm sorry we haven't had a chance to talk recently. As you might
suspect, it's been a busy couple of days, to say the least. You
around this weekend? I'm at the office now--348.0841.
Alfred
On 20 Mar 2004, at 17:30, robert register wrote:
Alfred:
I don't care to contribute to any apology to any group of dead
people or tohelp anyone with gittin' they respirations or with
digging up plaintiffs fo' dah U.S.Nigrah Claims Commission,
however, I believe a "public servants" research projectout to dah
UA would be good for everybody.
I was checking out Jerry Oldshue's article in the Oct. ' 77 issue
of The Alabama Review and found an interesting quotation from
the "Report of the Committee of Investigation, who were
instructed to inquire into the causes which have produced the late
Disturbances in and Decline of the University of Alabama,
August 12, 1837." [Special Collections, University of Alabama,
Tuscaloosa]
......they were the sons of "newly
prosperous cotton planters, pampered
in their childhood, given slaves to wait
upon them and sent off to college
equipped with an extravagant
wardrobe, and an extensive supply of
pistols, bowie knives, swords and
unlimited credit. Small wonder that
they raised the standard of rebellion."
best,
roberto
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:18:02 AM | robert register | edit ]
Robert,
Been getting hate mail all day--I don't think I'll answer my phone
at home tonight. Let's talk tomorrow.
Best, Alfred
On 16 Mar 2004, at 23:55, robert register wrote:
Professor wants UA apology for slavery
[For an exchange of emails between myself and Alfred over
the past week, click on
http://www.robertoreg.blogspot.com- Reg]
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:15:49 AM | robert register | edit ]
From :
Reply-To : abrophy@law.ua.edu
Sent : Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:50 PM
To : "robert register"
Subject : RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
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Yes, it would be great, indeed! I bet that's possible.
Here's some other good news--went to the Tuscsaloosa
Courthouse after class this morning and found where Manly's 160
acre plantation was. It's off of Moody Swamp Road (which is the
extension of Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd.)--just over the line
from Tuscaloosa City. You up for a field trip? From the current
tax map, it doesn't look like it's developed right now, though there
appears to be a housing development near it.
Best, Alfred
On 11 Mar 2004, at 15:38, robert register wrote:
alfred:
I've seen those old photos but didn't realize they were on the
site. I'll pull them up after work.
I've got a feeling that some ofGarland's slaves stayed with him
after emancipation. Garland became President of Vanderbilt so
some of the descendents might be in the Nashville area. Wouldn't
it be wild if we could find descendents of slaves associated with
the University?
best,
rr
>From:
>Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
>To: "robert register"
>Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
>Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:42:02 -0600
>
>That's great!Great drawings.Have you thought about posting
>some of the photographs of the cabins, too? Glad you posted
your
>reseach on slaves here--that's immensely useful.
>
>I'm off to the courthouse after class for a title search....
>Best, Alfred
>
>On 11 Mar 2004, at 0:21, robert register wrote:
>
>Thanks for turning me on tothe drawings of the slave cabins in
>Witt's backyard. I posted them on Cuba, Alabama
>http://www.robertoreg.blogspot.com
>
> >From:
> >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> >To: "robert register"
> >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:12:22 -0600
> >
> >All good to know--Fuller does have the story that Manly would
>as
> >soon sell his slave as a horse, or something to that effect.I've
>got
> >to find the story about the Baptist mission in there....
> >I didn't get down to the courthouse today; I'll do that after
class
> >tomorrow.More shortly....
> >
> >On 10 Mar 2004, at 23:46, robert register wrote:
> >
> >Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's it. Walnut Bluff.
> >There have been many "female colleges" in Tuscaloosa. The
one
> >in the old capitol was called Central Female College. The one
> >located near thesoutheast corner ofthe intersection of
>University
> >Boulevard and Queen City Avenue was called Tuscaloosa
> >Female College. Pretty sure the woman who betrayed Manly
>was
> >the wife of the president of that institution. The neighborhood
>built
> >on the old college property is today called College Park. I
believe
> >it's the first left past University Boulevard on Queen City. The
> >incident at the Baptist Meeting occurred the first time Manly
ran
> >for election to the Home Mission Board in `1844. Pretty sure
> >Fuller includes a direct quote from the man who accused
Manly
> >of using whipping as a method of daily exercise.
> > And there was some other argument where Manly implied
that
> >he'd sell a slave the same as he would a horse. Forgot the
details
> >on that. Check out the story of Manly sending the incorrigable
> >slave to Mobile with a pass which allowed him to put himself
up
> >for sale. The slave ended up in New Orleans.
> > All those guys who Manly worked with in Chlarleston were
> >involved in the capture of Denmark Vesey and his
>revolutionaries.
> >All kinds of connections between the Charleston characters in
> >Fuller's book and this latest Denmark Vesey book.
> > Best,
> > rr
>
> >
>
> >
> > >From:
> > >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> > >To: "robert register"
> > >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> > >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:16:21 -0600
> > >
> > >Yeah, Fuller's very, very useful.Is it Walnut Bluff?I'll do a
>title
> > >search at the courthouse this afternoon, if I can get
> >away.Ought
> > >not to be too hard to figure out where it is....
> > >
> > >Now, the story about Manly whipping his slave--I've seen a
> > >reference in Fuller to the wife of the Tuscaloosa Female
> > >Academy, but I thought that story was about Manly saying
he
> > >was happy to sell slaves not whip them....(And I thought
the
> > >TFA was in the old capitol building--don't know about
Illusions
> >on
> > >Queen City.This is what I get for being relatively new to
> > >Tuscaloosa!)
> > >More shortly,
> > >Alfred
> > >
> > >On 10 Mar 2004, at 16:37, robert register wrote:
> > >
> > >alfred:
> > >Got a friend with a super metal detector and I gotta sixth
>sense
> > >about looking for bottles so we oughta have some fun.The
> > >plantation ismentioned a lot in Fuller. Wasn't it called
Chestnut
> > >Hill? There are tons of huge Swamp Chestnut Oaks down
the
> > >river from here. No chestnuts but plenty of chestnut oaks.
> > > Alfred, it can be argued that the seeds of the Civil War
were
> > >sown in Tuscaloosa. Manly got one of his best friends the
> > >presidency of the Methodist Girls School here(It was
located
> > >behind the head shop, Illusions, on Queen City). The
President
>of
> > >the girls school was married to a Yankee! (all of this is
>detailed
> >in
> > >Fuller). Well, about 1844, Manly is nominated to the Home
> > >Mission Board and at the National Baptist Convention, this
> > >Yankee gets up and says something like," I have it on good
> > >authority from a well respected Tuscaloosa woman that Dr.
> > >Manly gets up every morning, goes out into his yard, takes
off
> >his
> > >shirt and whips his slaves for daily exercise."
> > > Manly went through the roof and the next year the Baptists
> >split
> > >(They have never rejoined) and then all the other religions
>split
> > >and we were on the road to a terrible war.
> > > Hasta,
> > > roberto
>
> >
> > >
>
> >
> > >
> > > >From:
> > > >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> > > >To: "robert register"
> > > >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> > > >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 08:43:31 -0600
> > > >
> > > >Robert,
> > > >
> > > >Thanks so much!Some of this I've seen before in Sellers--
>but
> >a
> > > >lot of this I haven't, especially Roberts' biography.All
very
> > > >interesting, most especially about the slave quarters!I'll
>start
> > > >tracking down some of that stuff, especially the letter
>Mellown
> > > >cites.I'll also run a title search to look for Manly's
>plantation.
> > > >Maybe we can do a field trip together one of the these
days.
> > > >Got your other letter, too.
> > > >Best, Alfred
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 10 Mar 2004, at 3:45, robert register wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Alfred:
> > > > I live in Northport and work for Pake Realty on
University
> > > >Boulevard. I caught the fish in a farm pond just west of
the
> >new
> > > >bridge on the west side of town.
> > > > The Board of Trustees never owned many slaves. I
would
> > > >guess four or five at a time and they were a pain in the ass
> > > >because of all the holidays. As soon as school let out, all
the
> > > >professors started pushing the steward around in order to
get
> >his
> > > >slaves to work on their pet projects plus the steward
wanted
> > >them
> > > >to work on his pet projects.
> > > >I have identified four categories of slaves associated with
>the
> > > >University:
> > > >1) Slaves that the students brought from home. Check out
>the
> > > >biography of Oran Milo Roberts in Special Collections.
> >Roberts
> > > >brought his slavePrince toTuscaloosa in 1833 when he
> >entered
> > > >the Universityand hired him out in town to pay college
> > >expenses.
> > > >Roberts also says that the straw that broke the camel's
back
> >for
> > > >Dearing occurred when studentskidnapped one of
hisslave
> >girls
> > > >and brought her to campus.[ Dearing built the University
>Club
> > >and
> > > >the big house across from the post office off of 21st
>Avenue].
> > > >Students attacked Dearingwhen he came looking for his
> > > >girl.Students' slaves weren't allowed on campus but
>students
> > > >lodged them in town and hired them out for a profit.
> > > >2) Slaves owned by faculty and the President. These
>servants
> > > >were often hired by the University. Barnard's slave was
his
> >lab
> > > >assistant. Manly mentions that Barnard's Morgan
> > > >pimpedBarnard's Luna to the students "who they use in
> > > >greatnumbersnightly." Luna may be Barnard's servant
girl
> >who
> > > >was so brutally raped by the student at Ole Miss.
> > > >3) Slaves owned by Tuscaloosa citizens and hired out the
the
> > > >University. This was the most common form of slavery
and
> >I'm
> > > >not sure how many records exist. The wild thing was
>Garland
> > > >impounding all the slaves in Tuscaloosa during the war to
>build
> > > >earthworks over by the present-day police station. He
>caught
> > >holy
> > > >hell from Tuscaloosa and the Governor forced him to stop.
> > > >4) Slaves owned by the Board of Trustees.
> > > >Check out the local papers for the first week of January
>each
> > > >year. There really wasn't what you would consider a slave
> > >market
> > > >here but January 1 was called "Hiring Day" and the sheriff
> > >would
> > > >have estate sales on the courthouse steps and slaves
would
>be
> > > >sold the first week in January. Lots of ads for this in
> >Tuscaloosa
> > > >papers.
> > > >Random thoughts...
> > > >Slave clothing included Cottonade coats & pants, flannel
> > > >coats,summer vests, summer hats, winter coats, shoes,
>slippers
> > > >Board for a slave $3 month- board for a horse 4 to 5
dollars
> >per
> > > >month
> > > >Carpenters hired at $2 per day. William, owned by H.S.
>Pratt,
> > > >was so skilled at building desks and bookcases that he
> >demanded
> > > >more and had to be paid under the table because his rate
>was
> >so
> > > >high.
> > > >Dr. Rueben Searcy, whose doctor's office was located in
>the
> > > >present day Alabama Grill on Greensboro Avenue,
charged
> >the
> > > >Board of Trustees for 33 office visits for Moses over a
>period
> >of
> > > >3 months in 1857.
> > > >Moses (a.k.a. "Preach") was bad to drink and fight. They
> > > >threatened to sell him so he got religion. From a Mobile
> >Tribune
> > > >article 1859. "I say, Preach, what are you going to do
when
> >the
> > > >devil gets you?"
> > > >"Wait on the students," Preach replied.
> > > >1844: Trustees curtailed use of slaves during vacation by
the
> > > >Steward. Top priority holiday work:receiving coal,
cleaning,
> > > >whitewashing
> > > >Underground Railroad!!!! In 1852, Professor Scherb found
> > > >runaways sleeping in Room 18 of Franklin Hall west of the
> > > >present day Gorgas Library.
> > > >Sam, owned by the Board, beat Tom who had been hired
>from
> > > >Alex Glascock. Glascock's house on 21st avenue has just
>been
> > > >renovated. Gatozzi Valuations is located there now.
>Glascock
> > > >shows up in Sellers' History of the First Methodist Church
of
> > > >Tuscaloosa.
> > > >Garland started out with 3 but soon had 60. His women
> >refused
> > >to
> > > >be sold to the owner's of their husbands so Garland had to
>buy
> > > >their husbands.
> > > >Student abuse:
> > > >1837: Henry Elmore chastised servant and then called
>before
> > > >faculty. Elmore signed an apology.
> > > >1842: Student admonished "for chasing a Negro through
> >campus
> > > >during study hours."
> > > >1843: 4studentsdragged a servant out ofa professor's
yard
> >and
> > > >abused and injured him for sport.
> > > >Foster and two students beat the President's negro so
badly
> >that
> > > >herequired surgery.
> > > >I have where Smithused Supreme Court lawyers to
>overcome
> > >his
> > > >indefinite suspension for abusing servants.
> > > >1845: Ben Saffold got a Presidential admonition after
>stabbing
> > > >Moses in the arm with a table fork.
> > > >1846:A.P. Robinson hitMoses with a crutch for not
bringing
> > >food
> > > >to his room. The student had to pay $1.50 per day for a
> > >substitute
> > > >while Moses recovered. University students could not
send
> > > >servants on errands, get food,etc, for them even when ill.
> > > >1845:Milton Saffold beat Sam for insolence when Sam
> >refused
> > >to
> > > >scald a bedstead. This was Milton's third offense and "he
>must
> > > >leave Tuscaloosa in the stage which departs for Selma this
> > > >evening." This kid probably had a long history of abusing
> > >servants
> > > >before he arrived in Tuscaloosa.
> > > >June 1850: 6 students and Barnard's Morgan stole Moses's
> > > >chickens.
> > > >Check out John Massey, Reminiscences(Nashville,
>Methodist
> > > >Episcopal Church,South, 1916)
> > > >Check out Letters of Landon Garland
> > > >In Richard Thigpen's January,' 81 article in The Alabama
> > > >Review,"The Four Public Buildings of The University of
> > >Alabama
> > > >to Survive the Civil War", he never mentions the four slave
> > > >cabins. Thigpen served as an interim President of the
> >University.
> > > >quote from Manly, "there is no set of men in Alabama that
I
> > > >would sooner be a slave ["slave" is underlined] to ( if I
must
>be
> >a
> > > >slave) [this parenthetical phrase is also underlined] than
the
> > > >Trustees."
> > > >Manly had two slaves named Lydia. This will confuse you.
> >Also
> > > >there's a good chance that some of Manly's slaves knew
> > > >Denmark Vesey.
> > > >The Junior Class students in Washington Hall collected
$75
>to
> > >hire
> > > >Barnard's slave so they could have experiments. I have a
>note
> > > >"Could this be Johnson?" I have another card which says
> > >Johnson,
> > > >owned by Barnard, was discharged when Sam was hired.
> > > >Levi, a little negro boy, (page 174 of Manly's diary)
January
> >10,
> > > >1840 Jan. 10 received from Father in Law Rudulph of
> >Lowndes
> > > >County, Ala. Born April 5, 1825 "This boy is intended as a
>gift
> > > >and is to be my property. My father in law purchasing his
> > >[family]
> > > >came under some obligation to liberate each of them at the
>age
> > >of
> > > >25 years provided the laws of country should admit
> > >emancipation.
> > > >After liberating the mother in 1821, she got into trouble
and
> >great
> > > >need and came back to her master to offer herself as his
>slave
> > >for
> > > >life, since which time Levi was born."
> > > >Larrey, given to Manly by his father, served as Manly's
body
> > > >servant.
> > > >Manly, Taxed for a riding chair [could this be a sedan
>chair?]
> > > >Manly quote,"I have 8 negroes over 10 years of age and 8
> > > >negroes under 10; but these are not considered taxable
>under
> >the
> > > >charter of the university."
> > > >Serena, born of Lydia #2 b. October 31, 1846 ; died of
>cholera
> > > >May 27, 1849
> > > >$150 allowed by Board of Trustees for hiring aservant.
> >"suitable
> > > >servants could not be got for less than $200"Professor
>Pratt's
> > > >Scipio and Peter hired for $200 each. "If the board of
>trustees
> >do
> > > >not pay the additional $100, the Faculty are to do it out of
the
> > > >money deposited for contingencies by the students, and
>subject
> > >to
> > > >our control" [interesting use of student activity fees]
> > > >June 28, 1841[ Source: New Building Fund- Money Paid
>Out]
> > >Jim
> > > >owned by J.A. Prattt hired for 10 days at 70 cents per
day.
> >May
> > > >22, 1841 paid Ms. Pratt $140 for hire of carpenters
William
> >and
> > > >Jim.
> > > >Boysey(proper name William) November 22, 1843 Mary's
>son
> > > >died of whooping cough at daylight 7 years old [from
>Manly's
> > > >recipe book-description of the case and prescription.
Funeral
> > >was
> > > >in the President's Mansion and he was buried by the
present
> >day
> > > >Biology building on the same afternoon]
> > > >Cory- Garland's carriage driver who drove Mrs. Garland
and
> >the
> > > >girls to the edge of the woodswhen the University burned.
> > > >Drish's colored man June 9, 1841 [New Building Fund]
"paid
> > >Wm.
> > > >Drish (colored man) for various jobs of brick work- such
as
> > > >setting iron chimney backs, laying hearths, repairing
arches,
> >and
> > > >filling up scaffold holes under colonnade before plastering.
> >Cash
> > > >$8.50
> > > >Jack, died May 5, 1843- died of pneumonia before 2
o'clock
>in
> > >the
> > > >afternoon -Manly,"He was an African, a member of the
> > > >Methodist church- honest and faithful- did as much and as
>well
> > >as
> > > >he knew how."
> > > >First Sharecropping: 28Manly slaves on the Tuscaloosa
> > >plantation
> > > >sign a contract on June 20, 1865, for the production of 10
> >acres
> > >of
> > > >corn each.
> > > >The Arthur negroes sold students peanuts, candy and
>tobacco.
> > > >Tuscaloosa slaves also sold possum dinners door to door in
>the
> > > >dormitories.
> > > >Frederick Thomas, English professor, drunk on a
steamboat
> > > >coming up from Mobile. On brandy and opium, he grabbed
a
> > >slave
> > > >girl and took her to his cabin. Dismissed from the
university.
> > > >Dr. Stafford's Archie " sold mean whiskey to students"
and
> > >rented
> > > >Dr. Stafford's carriage and horses to students for the
night.
> > > >Well Alfred, that's enought info for tonight. Hope you
enjoy
>it.
> > > >
Best,
> > >
> rr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >From:
> > > > >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> > > > >To: "robert register"
> > > > >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> > > > >Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 19:34:54 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > >Sorry I didn't write a longer message this morning; I was
> > >writing
> > > > >before hearing off to class--very much looking forward
to
> > > >hearing
> > > > >about this all.Manly's diaries are pretty interesting,
> >huh?It's
> > > > >hard to figure out exactly how many slaves were
working
>at
> > >UA
> > > > >at any one time--there're some references to them in the
> > >trustee
> > > > >minutes and in Manly's diaries, but it's hard to get a good
> > >picture
> > > > >of them, it seems.
> > > > >Nice picture of the catfish.
> > > > >Do you live around Tuscaloosa?
> > > > >Best, Alfred
> > > > >
> > > > >On 9 Mar 2004, at 15:44, robert register wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >Hey Great!
> > > > >Not much on the blog but that will change soon. I have
> > >identified
> > > > >many slaves who worked on campus and I have
>investigated
> > >the
> > > > >Barnard affair at Ole Miss.I'll put all this together for
you.
> > > > >Thisstory of slavery at the university is a common
theme
>at
> > > > >U.Va., UNC,College of S.C., UGA and Ole Miss.
> > > > >The Gorgas Library has a great book on slave cabin
> > >archaeology
> > > > >at one of Jefferson's plantations.
> > > > >
> > > > >Manly's group of slaves increased to the point where he
>had
> >to
> > > > >build a plantation in order to work all of them.
> > > > >Also the Garland slaves may have accompanied Garland
>to
> > > > >Vanderbilt after the war.
> > > > > More later.
> > > > > rr
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:11:42 AM | robert register | edit ]
Alfred:
I am not very organized but I gotta start somewhere....
Go to Gorgas and get Louis Friedman Herzburg's Negro Slavery in Tuscaloosa County, Alabama, 1818- 1865 (1955) [T 378 H447n1955]. It's not checked out and it's one of the only works to follow up on Sellers.
If you wanna know about slave archaeology (there's a well below the floor of Slave's Cabin #2 [the gardening tool house] and test pits outside all windows and doors of all four cabins should produce results) get Barbara Heath's Hidden Lives:the archaeology of slave life at Thomas Jefferson's Poplar Forest (E 332.74 .H43 1999)
Get a copy of Mellown's "The President's Mansion at The University of Alabama"(Alabama Review, July ' 82) Robert cites a letter in the Governor Arthur P. Bagby Papers, Alabama State Department of Archives and History, Montgomery. This letter (Dr.Basil Manly to Gov. Arthur P. Bagby, March 11, 1840) Quoting Mellown," Manly gave complete instructions for the interior and exterior details of the buildings in his letter to the governor." If you get this letter, please make me a copy.
Mellown states that only #1 and #4 served as slave quarters but I argue that slaves lived in all four.
Ironies concerning the 4 slave cabins:
The University does not claim that these four antebellum buildings survived the burning of the University by the Yankees. The water to put out the fire inside the Mansion came from #2. The University considers the four buildings to be dependencies of the Mansion so instead of 8 buildings surviving the fire, visitors are always told that 4 buildings(The Mansion, the Observatory, The Round House, and the Gorgas House) survived.
When the parking lots are clear, you can stand where Wallace stood in front of Foster, look over your left shoulder and see the east wall of Slave Cabin #4 ( Peggy and Dot were Sorensen's maids and I think Dot is still there. They have the keys to the 4 buildings)
Manly did not identify the four buildings on his survey map of the University(see Illustrated History of U. of A.) and they are, as far as I can tell, the only buildings on campus not identified on present day University campus maps.
You can do some pretty good population studies from the information available. Manly slaves multiplied quickly. Let me know if find out where Manly's Tuscaloosa plantation was located. I would think that it would be on the river in the direction of Moundville.
Check out the Faculty minutes because slaves are mentioned frequently because students were disciplined for attacking them. I'm pretty sure that the only times that students were disciplined was when their attack disturbed the peace or injured the slave to point where medical treatment was needed. I believe you could look into the lives of the worst offenders and find that they had tormented their own family's servants.
Of course slaves worked Marr's Field but the Board of Trustees purchased their first slave in 1828. This slave,Ben, worked with the architect but he was sold after work was completed.
Pretty sure you'll find that Board preferred to hire slaves from town rather than owning them, however, in 1860, Bama decided to go whole hog and really get into the slave trade when they sent George Benaugh to Lynchburg with $7000 to buy slaves ( letter- Benaugh to Henry Snow August 21, 1860)
More later. Gotta go pick my son up at Scouts.
best,
rr
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:10:30 AM | robert register | edit ]
From :
Reply-To : abrophy@law.ua.edu
Sent : Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:34 AM
To : "robert register"
Subject : RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
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Sorry I didn't write a longer message this morning; I was writing
before hearing off to class--very much looking forward to hearing
about this all. Manly's diaries are pretty interesting, huh? It's
hard to figure out exactly how many slaves were working at UA
at any one time--there're some references to them in the trustee
minutes and in Manly's diaries, but it's hard to get a good picture
of them, it seems.
Nice picture of the catfish.
Do you live around Tuscaloosa?
Best, Alfred
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# posted by roberto @ 8:30 AM
From :
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To : robertoreg@hotmail.com
Subject : your research on slave quarters at UA?
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Dear Mr. Register,
Ben Windham of the Tuscaloosa News tells me that you've done
some important work on slave quarters on the UA campus. I'd be
most appreciative if you would point me to the place on your blog
where you discuss your work--or if you have a paper to share, I'd
appreciate that as well.
I'm giving a talk in a couple of weeks on slavery at the UA--based
largely on trustee minutes and Manly's diary, but also on Sellers
and A. James Fuller's biography of Manly and a couple of other
secondary sources. I'd like to add something on slave quarters.
Best wishes, Alfred
Alfred L. Brophy, Professor of Law
University of Alabama
101 Bryant Drive East
Box 870382
Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0382
Facsimile: 205.348.5829
Voice: 205.348.0841 abrophy@law.ua.edu
# posted by roberto @ 8:07 AM
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:19:45 AM | robert register | edit ]
From :
Reply-To : abrophy@law.ua.edu
Sent : Saturday, March 20, 2004 5:59 PM
To : "robert register"
Subject : Re: Opening a Can of Worms and Finding Rattlesnakes In the Bottom of It
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Thanks, Robert. I appreciate your kindness in helping out--and
really appreciate that we can talk, even if we disagree on certain
issues.
I'm sorry we haven't had a chance to talk recently. As you might
suspect, it's been a busy couple of days, to say the least. You
around this weekend? I'm at the office now--348.0841.
Alfred
On 20 Mar 2004, at 17:30, robert register wrote:
Alfred:
I don't care to contribute to any apology to any group of dead
people or tohelp anyone with gittin' they respirations or with
digging up plaintiffs fo' dah U.S.Nigrah Claims Commission,
however, I believe a "public servants" research projectout to dah
UA would be good for everybody.
I was checking out Jerry Oldshue's article in the Oct. ' 77 issue
of The Alabama Review and found an interesting quotation from
the "Report of the Committee of Investigation, who were
instructed to inquire into the causes which have produced the late
Disturbances in and Decline of the University of Alabama,
August 12, 1837." [Special Collections, University of Alabama,
Tuscaloosa]
......they were the sons of "newly
prosperous cotton planters, pampered
in their childhood, given slaves to wait
upon them and sent off to college
equipped with an extravagant
wardrobe, and an extensive supply of
pistols, bowie knives, swords and
unlimited credit. Small wonder that
they raised the standard of rebellion."
best,
roberto
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:18:02 AM | robert register | edit ]
Robert,
Been getting hate mail all day--I don't think I'll answer my phone
at home tonight. Let's talk tomorrow.
Best, Alfred
On 16 Mar 2004, at 23:55, robert register wrote:
Professor wants UA apology for slavery
[For an exchange of emails between myself and Alfred over
the past week, click on
http://www.robertoreg.blogspot.com- Reg]
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:15:49 AM | robert register | edit ]
From :
Reply-To : abrophy@law.ua.edu
Sent : Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:50 PM
To : "robert register"
Subject : RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
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Yes, it would be great, indeed! I bet that's possible.
Here's some other good news--went to the Tuscsaloosa
Courthouse after class this morning and found where Manly's 160
acre plantation was. It's off of Moody Swamp Road (which is the
extension of Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd.)--just over the line
from Tuscaloosa City. You up for a field trip? From the current
tax map, it doesn't look like it's developed right now, though there
appears to be a housing development near it.
Best, Alfred
On 11 Mar 2004, at 15:38, robert register wrote:
alfred:
I've seen those old photos but didn't realize they were on the
site. I'll pull them up after work.
I've got a feeling that some ofGarland's slaves stayed with him
after emancipation. Garland became President of Vanderbilt so
some of the descendents might be in the Nashville area. Wouldn't
it be wild if we could find descendents of slaves associated with
the University?
best,
rr
>From:
>Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
>To: "robert register"
>Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
>Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:42:02 -0600
>
>That's great!Great drawings.Have you thought about posting
>some of the photographs of the cabins, too? Glad you posted
your
>reseach on slaves here--that's immensely useful.
>
>I'm off to the courthouse after class for a title search....
>Best, Alfred
>
>On 11 Mar 2004, at 0:21, robert register wrote:
>
>Thanks for turning me on tothe drawings of the slave cabins in
>Witt's backyard. I posted them on Cuba, Alabama
>http://www.robertoreg.blogspot.com
>
> >From:
> >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> >To: "robert register"
> >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:12:22 -0600
> >
> >All good to know--Fuller does have the story that Manly would
>as
> >soon sell his slave as a horse, or something to that effect.I've
>got
> >to find the story about the Baptist mission in there....
> >I didn't get down to the courthouse today; I'll do that after
class
> >tomorrow.More shortly....
> >
> >On 10 Mar 2004, at 23:46, robert register wrote:
> >
> >Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's it. Walnut Bluff.
> >There have been many "female colleges" in Tuscaloosa. The
one
> >in the old capitol was called Central Female College. The one
> >located near thesoutheast corner ofthe intersection of
>University
> >Boulevard and Queen City Avenue was called Tuscaloosa
> >Female College. Pretty sure the woman who betrayed Manly
>was
> >the wife of the president of that institution. The neighborhood
>built
> >on the old college property is today called College Park. I
believe
> >it's the first left past University Boulevard on Queen City. The
> >incident at the Baptist Meeting occurred the first time Manly
ran
> >for election to the Home Mission Board in `1844. Pretty sure
> >Fuller includes a direct quote from the man who accused
Manly
> >of using whipping as a method of daily exercise.
> > And there was some other argument where Manly implied
that
> >he'd sell a slave the same as he would a horse. Forgot the
details
> >on that. Check out the story of Manly sending the incorrigable
> >slave to Mobile with a pass which allowed him to put himself
up
> >for sale. The slave ended up in New Orleans.
> > All those guys who Manly worked with in Chlarleston were
> >involved in the capture of Denmark Vesey and his
>revolutionaries.
> >All kinds of connections between the Charleston characters in
> >Fuller's book and this latest Denmark Vesey book.
> > Best,
> > rr
>
> >
>
> >
> > >From:
> > >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> > >To: "robert register"
> > >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> > >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:16:21 -0600
> > >
> > >Yeah, Fuller's very, very useful.Is it Walnut Bluff?I'll do a
>title
> > >search at the courthouse this afternoon, if I can get
> >away.Ought
> > >not to be too hard to figure out where it is....
> > >
> > >Now, the story about Manly whipping his slave--I've seen a
> > >reference in Fuller to the wife of the Tuscaloosa Female
> > >Academy, but I thought that story was about Manly saying
he
> > >was happy to sell slaves not whip them....(And I thought
the
> > >TFA was in the old capitol building--don't know about
Illusions
> >on
> > >Queen City.This is what I get for being relatively new to
> > >Tuscaloosa!)
> > >More shortly,
> > >Alfred
> > >
> > >On 10 Mar 2004, at 16:37, robert register wrote:
> > >
> > >alfred:
> > >Got a friend with a super metal detector and I gotta sixth
>sense
> > >about looking for bottles so we oughta have some fun.The
> > >plantation ismentioned a lot in Fuller. Wasn't it called
Chestnut
> > >Hill? There are tons of huge Swamp Chestnut Oaks down
the
> > >river from here. No chestnuts but plenty of chestnut oaks.
> > > Alfred, it can be argued that the seeds of the Civil War
were
> > >sown in Tuscaloosa. Manly got one of his best friends the
> > >presidency of the Methodist Girls School here(It was
located
> > >behind the head shop, Illusions, on Queen City). The
President
>of
> > >the girls school was married to a Yankee! (all of this is
>detailed
> >in
> > >Fuller). Well, about 1844, Manly is nominated to the Home
> > >Mission Board and at the National Baptist Convention, this
> > >Yankee gets up and says something like," I have it on good
> > >authority from a well respected Tuscaloosa woman that Dr.
> > >Manly gets up every morning, goes out into his yard, takes
off
> >his
> > >shirt and whips his slaves for daily exercise."
> > > Manly went through the roof and the next year the Baptists
> >split
> > >(They have never rejoined) and then all the other religions
>split
> > >and we were on the road to a terrible war.
> > > Hasta,
> > > roberto
>
> >
> > >
>
> >
> > >
> > > >From:
> > > >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> > > >To: "robert register"
> > > >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> > > >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 08:43:31 -0600
> > > >
> > > >Robert,
> > > >
> > > >Thanks so much!Some of this I've seen before in Sellers--
>but
> >a
> > > >lot of this I haven't, especially Roberts' biography.All
very
> > > >interesting, most especially about the slave quarters!I'll
>start
> > > >tracking down some of that stuff, especially the letter
>Mellown
> > > >cites.I'll also run a title search to look for Manly's
>plantation.
> > > >Maybe we can do a field trip together one of the these
days.
> > > >Got your other letter, too.
> > > >Best, Alfred
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 10 Mar 2004, at 3:45, robert register wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Alfred:
> > > > I live in Northport and work for Pake Realty on
University
> > > >Boulevard. I caught the fish in a farm pond just west of
the
> >new
> > > >bridge on the west side of town.
> > > > The Board of Trustees never owned many slaves. I
would
> > > >guess four or five at a time and they were a pain in the ass
> > > >because of all the holidays. As soon as school let out, all
the
> > > >professors started pushing the steward around in order to
get
> >his
> > > >slaves to work on their pet projects plus the steward
wanted
> > >them
> > > >to work on his pet projects.
> > > >I have identified four categories of slaves associated with
>the
> > > >University:
> > > >1) Slaves that the students brought from home. Check out
>the
> > > >biography of Oran Milo Roberts in Special Collections.
> >Roberts
> > > >brought his slavePrince toTuscaloosa in 1833 when he
> >entered
> > > >the Universityand hired him out in town to pay college
> > >expenses.
> > > >Roberts also says that the straw that broke the camel's
back
> >for
> > > >Dearing occurred when studentskidnapped one of
hisslave
> >girls
> > > >and brought her to campus.[ Dearing built the University
>Club
> > >and
> > > >the big house across from the post office off of 21st
>Avenue].
> > > >Students attacked Dearingwhen he came looking for his
> > > >girl.Students' slaves weren't allowed on campus but
>students
> > > >lodged them in town and hired them out for a profit.
> > > >2) Slaves owned by faculty and the President. These
>servants
> > > >were often hired by the University. Barnard's slave was
his
> >lab
> > > >assistant. Manly mentions that Barnard's Morgan
> > > >pimpedBarnard's Luna to the students "who they use in
> > > >greatnumbersnightly." Luna may be Barnard's servant
girl
> >who
> > > >was so brutally raped by the student at Ole Miss.
> > > >3) Slaves owned by Tuscaloosa citizens and hired out the
the
> > > >University. This was the most common form of slavery
and
> >I'm
> > > >not sure how many records exist. The wild thing was
>Garland
> > > >impounding all the slaves in Tuscaloosa during the war to
>build
> > > >earthworks over by the present-day police station. He
>caught
> > >holy
> > > >hell from Tuscaloosa and the Governor forced him to stop.
> > > >4) Slaves owned by the Board of Trustees.
> > > >Check out the local papers for the first week of January
>each
> > > >year. There really wasn't what you would consider a slave
> > >market
> > > >here but January 1 was called "Hiring Day" and the sheriff
> > >would
> > > >have estate sales on the courthouse steps and slaves
would
>be
> > > >sold the first week in January. Lots of ads for this in
> >Tuscaloosa
> > > >papers.
> > > >Random thoughts...
> > > >Slave clothing included Cottonade coats & pants, flannel
> > > >coats,summer vests, summer hats, winter coats, shoes,
>slippers
> > > >Board for a slave $3 month- board for a horse 4 to 5
dollars
> >per
> > > >month
> > > >Carpenters hired at $2 per day. William, owned by H.S.
>Pratt,
> > > >was so skilled at building desks and bookcases that he
> >demanded
> > > >more and had to be paid under the table because his rate
>was
> >so
> > > >high.
> > > >Dr. Rueben Searcy, whose doctor's office was located in
>the
> > > >present day Alabama Grill on Greensboro Avenue,
charged
> >the
> > > >Board of Trustees for 33 office visits for Moses over a
>period
> >of
> > > >3 months in 1857.
> > > >Moses (a.k.a. "Preach") was bad to drink and fight. They
> > > >threatened to sell him so he got religion. From a Mobile
> >Tribune
> > > >article 1859. "I say, Preach, what are you going to do
when
> >the
> > > >devil gets you?"
> > > >"Wait on the students," Preach replied.
> > > >1844: Trustees curtailed use of slaves during vacation by
the
> > > >Steward. Top priority holiday work:receiving coal,
cleaning,
> > > >whitewashing
> > > >Underground Railroad!!!! In 1852, Professor Scherb found
> > > >runaways sleeping in Room 18 of Franklin Hall west of the
> > > >present day Gorgas Library.
> > > >Sam, owned by the Board, beat Tom who had been hired
>from
> > > >Alex Glascock. Glascock's house on 21st avenue has just
>been
> > > >renovated. Gatozzi Valuations is located there now.
>Glascock
> > > >shows up in Sellers' History of the First Methodist Church
of
> > > >Tuscaloosa.
> > > >Garland started out with 3 but soon had 60. His women
> >refused
> > >to
> > > >be sold to the owner's of their husbands so Garland had to
>buy
> > > >their husbands.
> > > >Student abuse:
> > > >1837: Henry Elmore chastised servant and then called
>before
> > > >faculty. Elmore signed an apology.
> > > >1842: Student admonished "for chasing a Negro through
> >campus
> > > >during study hours."
> > > >1843: 4studentsdragged a servant out ofa professor's
yard
> >and
> > > >abused and injured him for sport.
> > > >Foster and two students beat the President's negro so
badly
> >that
> > > >herequired surgery.
> > > >I have where Smithused Supreme Court lawyers to
>overcome
> > >his
> > > >indefinite suspension for abusing servants.
> > > >1845: Ben Saffold got a Presidential admonition after
>stabbing
> > > >Moses in the arm with a table fork.
> > > >1846:A.P. Robinson hitMoses with a crutch for not
bringing
> > >food
> > > >to his room. The student had to pay $1.50 per day for a
> > >substitute
> > > >while Moses recovered. University students could not
send
> > > >servants on errands, get food,etc, for them even when ill.
> > > >1845:Milton Saffold beat Sam for insolence when Sam
> >refused
> > >to
> > > >scald a bedstead. This was Milton's third offense and "he
>must
> > > >leave Tuscaloosa in the stage which departs for Selma this
> > > >evening." This kid probably had a long history of abusing
> > >servants
> > > >before he arrived in Tuscaloosa.
> > > >June 1850: 6 students and Barnard's Morgan stole Moses's
> > > >chickens.
> > > >Check out John Massey, Reminiscences(Nashville,
>Methodist
> > > >Episcopal Church,South, 1916)
> > > >Check out Letters of Landon Garland
> > > >In Richard Thigpen's January,' 81 article in The Alabama
> > > >Review,"The Four Public Buildings of The University of
> > >Alabama
> > > >to Survive the Civil War", he never mentions the four slave
> > > >cabins. Thigpen served as an interim President of the
> >University.
> > > >quote from Manly, "there is no set of men in Alabama that
I
> > > >would sooner be a slave ["slave" is underlined] to ( if I
must
>be
> >a
> > > >slave) [this parenthetical phrase is also underlined] than
the
> > > >Trustees."
> > > >Manly had two slaves named Lydia. This will confuse you.
> >Also
> > > >there's a good chance that some of Manly's slaves knew
> > > >Denmark Vesey.
> > > >The Junior Class students in Washington Hall collected
$75
>to
> > >hire
> > > >Barnard's slave so they could have experiments. I have a
>note
> > > >"Could this be Johnson?" I have another card which says
> > >Johnson,
> > > >owned by Barnard, was discharged when Sam was hired.
> > > >Levi, a little negro boy, (page 174 of Manly's diary)
January
> >10,
> > > >1840 Jan. 10 received from Father in Law Rudulph of
> >Lowndes
> > > >County, Ala. Born April 5, 1825 "This boy is intended as a
>gift
> > > >and is to be my property. My father in law purchasing his
> > >[family]
> > > >came under some obligation to liberate each of them at the
>age
> > >of
> > > >25 years provided the laws of country should admit
> > >emancipation.
> > > >After liberating the mother in 1821, she got into trouble
and
> >great
> > > >need and came back to her master to offer herself as his
>slave
> > >for
> > > >life, since which time Levi was born."
> > > >Larrey, given to Manly by his father, served as Manly's
body
> > > >servant.
> > > >Manly, Taxed for a riding chair [could this be a sedan
>chair?]
> > > >Manly quote,"I have 8 negroes over 10 years of age and 8
> > > >negroes under 10; but these are not considered taxable
>under
> >the
> > > >charter of the university."
> > > >Serena, born of Lydia #2 b. October 31, 1846 ; died of
>cholera
> > > >May 27, 1849
> > > >$150 allowed by Board of Trustees for hiring aservant.
> >"suitable
> > > >servants could not be got for less than $200"Professor
>Pratt's
> > > >Scipio and Peter hired for $200 each. "If the board of
>trustees
> >do
> > > >not pay the additional $100, the Faculty are to do it out of
the
> > > >money deposited for contingencies by the students, and
>subject
> > >to
> > > >our control" [interesting use of student activity fees]
> > > >June 28, 1841[ Source: New Building Fund- Money Paid
>Out]
> > >Jim
> > > >owned by J.A. Prattt hired for 10 days at 70 cents per
day.
> >May
> > > >22, 1841 paid Ms. Pratt $140 for hire of carpenters
William
> >and
> > > >Jim.
> > > >Boysey(proper name William) November 22, 1843 Mary's
>son
> > > >died of whooping cough at daylight 7 years old [from
>Manly's
> > > >recipe book-description of the case and prescription.
Funeral
> > >was
> > > >in the President's Mansion and he was buried by the
present
> >day
> > > >Biology building on the same afternoon]
> > > >Cory- Garland's carriage driver who drove Mrs. Garland
and
> >the
> > > >girls to the edge of the woodswhen the University burned.
> > > >Drish's colored man June 9, 1841 [New Building Fund]
"paid
> > >Wm.
> > > >Drish (colored man) for various jobs of brick work- such
as
> > > >setting iron chimney backs, laying hearths, repairing
arches,
> >and
> > > >filling up scaffold holes under colonnade before plastering.
> >Cash
> > > >$8.50
> > > >Jack, died May 5, 1843- died of pneumonia before 2
o'clock
>in
> > >the
> > > >afternoon -Manly,"He was an African, a member of the
> > > >Methodist church- honest and faithful- did as much and as
>well
> > >as
> > > >he knew how."
> > > >First Sharecropping: 28Manly slaves on the Tuscaloosa
> > >plantation
> > > >sign a contract on June 20, 1865, for the production of 10
> >acres
> > >of
> > > >corn each.
> > > >The Arthur negroes sold students peanuts, candy and
>tobacco.
> > > >Tuscaloosa slaves also sold possum dinners door to door in
>the
> > > >dormitories.
> > > >Frederick Thomas, English professor, drunk on a
steamboat
> > > >coming up from Mobile. On brandy and opium, he grabbed
a
> > >slave
> > > >girl and took her to his cabin. Dismissed from the
university.
> > > >Dr. Stafford's Archie " sold mean whiskey to students"
and
> > >rented
> > > >Dr. Stafford's carriage and horses to students for the
night.
> > > >Well Alfred, that's enought info for tonight. Hope you
enjoy
>it.
> > > >
Best,
> > >
> rr
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> > > >
> > > > >From:
> > > > >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> > > > >To: "robert register"
> > > > >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> > > > >Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 19:34:54 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > >Sorry I didn't write a longer message this morning; I was
> > >writing
> > > > >before hearing off to class--very much looking forward
to
> > > >hearing
> > > > >about this all.Manly's diaries are pretty interesting,
> >huh?It's
> > > > >hard to figure out exactly how many slaves were
working
>at
> > >UA
> > > > >at any one time--there're some references to them in the
> > >trustee
> > > > >minutes and in Manly's diaries, but it's hard to get a good
> > >picture
> > > > >of them, it seems.
> > > > >Nice picture of the catfish.
> > > > >Do you live around Tuscaloosa?
> > > > >Best, Alfred
> > > > >
> > > > >On 9 Mar 2004, at 15:44, robert register wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >Hey Great!
> > > > >Not much on the blog but that will change soon. I have
> > >identified
> > > > >many slaves who worked on campus and I have
>investigated
> > >the
> > > > >Barnard affair at Ole Miss.I'll put all this together for
you.
> > > > >Thisstory of slavery at the university is a common
theme
>at
> > > > >U.Va., UNC,College of S.C., UGA and Ole Miss.
> > > > >The Gorgas Library has a great book on slave cabin
> > >archaeology
> > > > >at one of Jefferson's plantations.
> > > > >
> > > > >Manly's group of slaves increased to the point where he
>had
> >to
> > > > >build a plantation in order to work all of them.
> > > > >Also the Garland slaves may have accompanied Garland
>to
> > > > >Vanderbilt after the war.
> > > > > More later.
> > > > > rr
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:11:42 AM | robert register | edit ]
Alfred:
I am not very organized but I gotta start somewhere....
Go to Gorgas and get Louis Friedman Herzburg's Negro Slavery in Tuscaloosa County, Alabama, 1818- 1865 (1955) [T 378 H447n1955]. It's not checked out and it's one of the only works to follow up on Sellers.
If you wanna know about slave archaeology (there's a well below the floor of Slave's Cabin #2 [the gardening tool house] and test pits outside all windows and doors of all four cabins should produce results) get Barbara Heath's Hidden Lives:the archaeology of slave life at Thomas Jefferson's Poplar Forest (E 332.74 .H43 1999)
Get a copy of Mellown's "The President's Mansion at The University of Alabama"(Alabama Review, July ' 82) Robert cites a letter in the Governor Arthur P. Bagby Papers, Alabama State Department of Archives and History, Montgomery. This letter (Dr.Basil Manly to Gov. Arthur P. Bagby, March 11, 1840) Quoting Mellown," Manly gave complete instructions for the interior and exterior details of the buildings in his letter to the governor." If you get this letter, please make me a copy.
Mellown states that only #1 and #4 served as slave quarters but I argue that slaves lived in all four.
Ironies concerning the 4 slave cabins:
The University does not claim that these four antebellum buildings survived the burning of the University by the Yankees. The water to put out the fire inside the Mansion came from #2. The University considers the four buildings to be dependencies of the Mansion so instead of 8 buildings surviving the fire, visitors are always told that 4 buildings(The Mansion, the Observatory, The Round House, and the Gorgas House) survived.
When the parking lots are clear, you can stand where Wallace stood in front of Foster, look over your left shoulder and see the east wall of Slave Cabin #4 ( Peggy and Dot were Sorensen's maids and I think Dot is still there. They have the keys to the 4 buildings)
Manly did not identify the four buildings on his survey map of the University(see Illustrated History of U. of A.) and they are, as far as I can tell, the only buildings on campus not identified on present day University campus maps.
You can do some pretty good population studies from the information available. Manly slaves multiplied quickly. Let me know if find out where Manly's Tuscaloosa plantation was located. I would think that it would be on the river in the direction of Moundville.
Check out the Faculty minutes because slaves are mentioned frequently because students were disciplined for attacking them. I'm pretty sure that the only times that students were disciplined was when their attack disturbed the peace or injured the slave to point where medical treatment was needed. I believe you could look into the lives of the worst offenders and find that they had tormented their own family's servants.
Of course slaves worked Marr's Field but the Board of Trustees purchased their first slave in 1828. This slave,Ben, worked with the architect but he was sold after work was completed.
Pretty sure you'll find that Board preferred to hire slaves from town rather than owning them, however, in 1860, Bama decided to go whole hog and really get into the slave trade when they sent George Benaugh to Lynchburg with $7000 to buy slaves ( letter- Benaugh to Henry Snow August 21, 1860)
More later. Gotta go pick my son up at Scouts.
best,
rr
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:10:30 AM | robert register | edit ]
From :
Reply-To : abrophy@law.ua.edu
Sent : Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:34 AM
To : "robert register"
Subject : RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
| | | Inbox
Sorry I didn't write a longer message this morning; I was writing
before hearing off to class--very much looking forward to hearing
about this all. Manly's diaries are pretty interesting, huh? It's
hard to figure out exactly how many slaves were working at UA
at any one time--there're some references to them in the trustee
minutes and in Manly's diaries, but it's hard to get a good picture
of them, it seems.
Nice picture of the catfish.
Do you live around Tuscaloosa?
Best, Alfred
Sent : Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:43 AM
To : "robert register"
Subject : Re: Professor Alfred Brophy Now Appears On My New Weblog!
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John McWhorter: So, in other words--in other words, Al (Brophy), before--before the evil White man came, Africans were living in this period of beautiful Kunta Kinte roots harmony. They weren't killing each other, they weren't fighting each other, they weren't overrunning one another. As soon as the evil White man came, then the Africans were devoid of personal agency and started selling one another into slavery, which was the main way that slaves were caught. It was not a matter of going in and lassoing people while they were out on walks. Wouldn't have people stopped taking walks?
http://www.uncommonknowledge.org/01-02/610.html
http://www.uncommonknowledge.org/01-02/610.html
To : "robert register"
Subject : Re: Professor Alfred Brophy Now Appears On My New Weblog!
| | | Inbox
John McWhorter: So, in other words--in other words, Al (Brophy), before--before the evil White man came, Africans were living in this period of beautiful Kunta Kinte roots harmony. They weren't killing each other, they weren't fighting each other, they weren't overrunning one another. As soon as the evil White man came, then the Africans were devoid of personal agency and started selling one another into slavery, which was the main way that slaves were caught. It was not a matter of going in and lassoing people while they were out on walks. Wouldn't have people stopped taking walks?
http://www.uncommonknowledge.org/01-02/610.html
http://www.uncommonknowledge.org/01-02/610.html
