Wednesday, March 31, 2004
Alfred:
Enjoyed the TV show even with the Manly-Luna Hall bit.
You and I are definitely on opposite ends of this deal, however, no matter how moronic your guilt trip might be, it brings attention to our heritage so that's a good thing to me.
Tim put an Auburn link concerning Alabama Supreme Court decisions on slavery on the AL PBS website. http://www.lib.auburn.edu/archive/aghy/slaves.htm
Many of those decisions occurred in Tuscaloosa. I noticed Judge Collier made one of the decisions and his house still stands on the southeast corner of 21st Avenue and 9th Street across from JacMac Tire.
I hope that as you learn more about Alabama you will overcome your sickening guilt and quit giving our sorry ass citizens lame-ass excuses they can always use to become even sorrier asses than they already are as they suck off the Federal tit like they have ALREADY done for the past 40 years but YOU have ALREADY proven by your past actions YOU will NEVER do the right thing.
If you change, it will be a miracle.
Those in Rose want to bring in more Human Performance,Public Relations, Communications,Theatre, Dance, Humanities,New College, American Studies, Social Work, Education, Criminal Justice,Marketing, Home Ec [or whatever they call it now] etc, etc. majors while they eliminate Russian and anything else that is difficult and costs money in order to maintain national standards.
The folks in Rose are just like our sorry ass Alabama trash citizens. They simply want to milk the Cash Cow. And they certainly don't want to admit that their offices are located across the alley from Slaves Cabin #1!!!!
It will be interesting to see how they deal with you.
best,
roberto
Enjoyed the TV show even with the Manly-Luna Hall bit.
You and I are definitely on opposite ends of this deal, however, no matter how moronic your guilt trip might be, it brings attention to our heritage so that's a good thing to me.
Tim put an Auburn link concerning Alabama Supreme Court decisions on slavery on the AL PBS website. http://www.lib.auburn.edu/archive/aghy/slaves.htm
Many of those decisions occurred in Tuscaloosa. I noticed Judge Collier made one of the decisions and his house still stands on the southeast corner of 21st Avenue and 9th Street across from JacMac Tire.
I hope that as you learn more about Alabama you will overcome your sickening guilt and quit giving our sorry ass citizens lame-ass excuses they can always use to become even sorrier asses than they already are as they suck off the Federal tit like they have ALREADY done for the past 40 years but YOU have ALREADY proven by your past actions YOU will NEVER do the right thing.
If you change, it will be a miracle.
Those in Rose want to bring in more Human Performance,Public Relations, Communications,Theatre, Dance, Humanities,New College, American Studies, Social Work, Education, Criminal Justice,Marketing, Home Ec [or whatever they call it now] etc, etc. majors while they eliminate Russian and anything else that is difficult and costs money in order to maintain national standards.
The folks in Rose are just like our sorry ass Alabama trash citizens. They simply want to milk the Cash Cow. And they certainly don't want to admit that their offices are located across the alley from Slaves Cabin #1!!!!
It will be interesting to see how they deal with you.
best,
roberto
Monday, March 29, 2004
Mon Mar 29, 07:31:29 PM | robert register | edit ]
Thu Aug 14, 05:50:00 PM | robert register | edit ]
" Folks: I have dedicated my life to myself alone and I do not regret it, for most people I've come to know are simply not worth the least amount of trouble. My name is not important, but what I know should be. I have decided to squeal on The Beast because I find much foolishness in the world, particularly amongst the people of my native land, who live indisposed with a particular bend for persuasion and dogma.
" I knew Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz since we were children. Don't let him deceive you, he's always been a wicked clown.
" Fidel and I spent our childhood years in a small town of eastern Cuba killing birds with the sling shot, poisoning stray dogs with strychnine, catching lizards to make them fight, killing cats with small-caliber guns or setting hunting dogs on them... This may sound a bit heartless but, in the country side, the only other plausible alternative for well-to-do young men like us at the time was boredom. We also wandered to nearby towns to stage erotic scenes (cuadros) with Black whores (putas de color), fished in the rivers, swam in the ponds and rode horses all over the place. I saw Fidel rape a hen to death, climb on a rock to be able to copulate with a young mare and even clutch amorously a sow, trying to endear the animal so it would perform properly.
" Fidel always ignored those who attempted to give him advice. I mentioned to him once that, having one or two young maids in the house to enjoy the coitus, it seemed rather perverted to favor bestiality. He insulted me. To him, the most disdainful thing is wisdom when it comes from someone other than himself.
" After a certain time, when Fidel thought that he had learned manners in the schools he attended, he began to show revulsion for the way his mother spoke at the table with her mouth full of rice and beans. I don't particularly like to indulge in gossip. It must be said, however, that Fidel's mother was a maid and a cook in his father's household and, as it was customary in Cuban society, she became her employer's mistress --his first wife was still alive.
" Fidel also experienced embarrassment in front of his "learned" friends at his father's ignorance about the stuff taught in schools --old Angel Castro was an uneducated Spanish immigrant who had made a fortune in the sugar business. By the time Fidel was in his teens, the teachers of the expensive Jesuit school he attended had already messed up whatever sanity he had been born with. I believe that the Spanish priests' minds were warped by celibacy.
" Fidel liked sports, but he was never the athlete he wants others to admire. He was trouble, but not very brave --always preferring to remain in the background when others fought. His self- aggrandizement, nonetheless, knows no limit: he claims to have swam ten miles in waters infested with sharks --a lie--, and he exaggerates broadly when he brags about the "numerous attempts made against his life by police and gangsters," and he concocted the hoax of having become the "instant leader" of rioters in Colombia, and he distorts the truth royally when he alleges to have been always on the thick of the action in Havana during the years of violence. Fidel Castro is a buffoon who yearns for his own legend.
" It wasn't uncommon for a person born in 1926, when Russian communism was new, to conclude that liberal democracy was decadent. Fidel, the self-promoting Cuban, would make a career of his struggle against democracy. I know that he turned into an enemy of suffrage after his failure to muster enough support among his fellow students to become the University's Law School president. He could not work with others and was disliked by most.
" Somehow, in a very short time, Fidel managed to graduate from the University of Havana with titles in Law, Social Sciences and Diplomatic Law. At the time, it was commonplace to acquire university degrees in Cuba through bribes, influence, or even at gun point.
" In 1952, a mulatto sergeant led a coup that ousted an elected president whose administration had been marked by corruption and disorder. Among the educated, many rose against the half-breed dictator at once.
" Fidel recruited poor workers from Havana and nearby localities and directed them against several Army barracks in the eastern part of the island, killing nineteen of the enemy and losing sixty-nine of the newly-enlisted patriots. He failed to acquire weapons from the Army to start an uprising and was apprehended before he could reach the mountains, but he became a recognized leader of the anti- dictator opposition.
" At the ensuing trial, Fidel undertook his own defense, mounting an attack on the dictator. He was given a sentence of thirteen years in prison but served only seven months. During Fidel's revolutionary struggle, his wife had been on the government's payroll. He could not fathom that, while he was dreaming of revolution, she had climbed into someone else's bed. He divorced her and she remarried. I wonder what kind of animal he had wanted her to become.
" In acceptance of the colored dictator's unpopularity, Fidel was eventually released from prison. I saw him in Miami, where he was demanding that every Cuban living and working in the United States donated one day of his monthly wages to help free the motherland -- again! Later, he moved to Mexico, always keeping in touch with those who were to create an uprising in Cuba at the time of his landing.
" After a faulty landing in eastern Cuba, Fidel managed to get to the hills with twenty men and a few weapons. He launched his revolution with the taking of a five-man garrison. Concurrently, other acts of rebellion were taking their course on the island. Fidel dreaded, more than anything, the removal of the mulatto dictator by means of a military coup by the armed forces, which would make him wholly irrelevant.
" The Cuban Army did not fight on behalf of the dictator and Fidel won. Even before coming down from the hills, he approved a law that would turn over to tenants, renters and squatters the land they worked. He was always willing to give away what wasn't his! He began entertaining eerie talks about some kind of revolutionary justice based on moral conviction and not on legal precepts --he had been a lousy lawyer. He was encouraged by the fact that no real democracy was possible for the poor and the hungry and began to exploit class and racial distinctions straightaway. If Nobel would have established an award for trouble making, Fidel would have won it.
" In his capacity of Máximo Líder (a title that had never been written into the Cuban Constitution) Fidel confiscated American businesses and President Eisenhower announced that the United States would not buy any more sugar from Cuba. He nationalized American banks and the USA began supporting every counter- revolutionary organization in Cuba. Later, he expropriated all foreign companies as well as Cuban industry, farms, commercial companies and, eventually, even coffee shops and taxicabs. The Kennedy administration stopped all trade with the island of Cuba.
" The United States' Central Intelligence Agency recruited disaffected Cuban nationals and planned an invasion of Cuba. It failed due to the inability of the small expeditionary force to secure a beach head from where American recognition and military assistance could be obtained. This made Fidel so happy that he boasted about his "victory over the United States" for thirty-five years. The highest point of his life, however, came when he let the Russians install nuclear missiles in Cuba to the strong objection of the United States and, on his account, the world was at the brink of an atomic war between the two superpowers. He would have liked to cause a major war so much! Years later, he still let the Russians establish a nuclear-submarine base in a Cuban port.
" Being so ruthless and mistrustful, Fidel has successfully met all challenges to ouster him. He desires power for the sake of power and he'll stop at nothing to be on the spotlight. Regardless of the failure of his economic policies and the fact that so many have left or want to leave the hell he has created, he will not part with the high command till death. He thinks of no one but Fidel. He watches his revolution deteriorate and blames others for the mess.
" Fidel knows his people well. He understands that his foes are greedy, unprincipled men like himself. He sees many other monsters- to-be looming in the horizon, and he laughs. He knows that those who oppose him most vehemently are envious men, just like he was before seizing power.
" Unfortunately, the Devil's work has already been done. Fidel has corrupted the thinking of the people with a morbid sense of equality, a shortage of accountability and an estrangement from reality. Since he is not very likely to be punished in life for his sins, let us ravage his memory with the truth.
Thu Aug 14, 05:50:00 PM | robert register | edit ]
" Folks: I have dedicated my life to myself alone and I do not regret it, for most people I've come to know are simply not worth the least amount of trouble. My name is not important, but what I know should be. I have decided to squeal on The Beast because I find much foolishness in the world, particularly amongst the people of my native land, who live indisposed with a particular bend for persuasion and dogma.
" I knew Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz since we were children. Don't let him deceive you, he's always been a wicked clown.
" Fidel and I spent our childhood years in a small town of eastern Cuba killing birds with the sling shot, poisoning stray dogs with strychnine, catching lizards to make them fight, killing cats with small-caliber guns or setting hunting dogs on them... This may sound a bit heartless but, in the country side, the only other plausible alternative for well-to-do young men like us at the time was boredom. We also wandered to nearby towns to stage erotic scenes (cuadros) with Black whores (putas de color), fished in the rivers, swam in the ponds and rode horses all over the place. I saw Fidel rape a hen to death, climb on a rock to be able to copulate with a young mare and even clutch amorously a sow, trying to endear the animal so it would perform properly.
" Fidel always ignored those who attempted to give him advice. I mentioned to him once that, having one or two young maids in the house to enjoy the coitus, it seemed rather perverted to favor bestiality. He insulted me. To him, the most disdainful thing is wisdom when it comes from someone other than himself.
" After a certain time, when Fidel thought that he had learned manners in the schools he attended, he began to show revulsion for the way his mother spoke at the table with her mouth full of rice and beans. I don't particularly like to indulge in gossip. It must be said, however, that Fidel's mother was a maid and a cook in his father's household and, as it was customary in Cuban society, she became her employer's mistress --his first wife was still alive.
" Fidel also experienced embarrassment in front of his "learned" friends at his father's ignorance about the stuff taught in schools --old Angel Castro was an uneducated Spanish immigrant who had made a fortune in the sugar business. By the time Fidel was in his teens, the teachers of the expensive Jesuit school he attended had already messed up whatever sanity he had been born with. I believe that the Spanish priests' minds were warped by celibacy.
" Fidel liked sports, but he was never the athlete he wants others to admire. He was trouble, but not very brave --always preferring to remain in the background when others fought. His self- aggrandizement, nonetheless, knows no limit: he claims to have swam ten miles in waters infested with sharks --a lie--, and he exaggerates broadly when he brags about the "numerous attempts made against his life by police and gangsters," and he concocted the hoax of having become the "instant leader" of rioters in Colombia, and he distorts the truth royally when he alleges to have been always on the thick of the action in Havana during the years of violence. Fidel Castro is a buffoon who yearns for his own legend.
" It wasn't uncommon for a person born in 1926, when Russian communism was new, to conclude that liberal democracy was decadent. Fidel, the self-promoting Cuban, would make a career of his struggle against democracy. I know that he turned into an enemy of suffrage after his failure to muster enough support among his fellow students to become the University's Law School president. He could not work with others and was disliked by most.
" Somehow, in a very short time, Fidel managed to graduate from the University of Havana with titles in Law, Social Sciences and Diplomatic Law. At the time, it was commonplace to acquire university degrees in Cuba through bribes, influence, or even at gun point.
" In 1952, a mulatto sergeant led a coup that ousted an elected president whose administration had been marked by corruption and disorder. Among the educated, many rose against the half-breed dictator at once.
" Fidel recruited poor workers from Havana and nearby localities and directed them against several Army barracks in the eastern part of the island, killing nineteen of the enemy and losing sixty-nine of the newly-enlisted patriots. He failed to acquire weapons from the Army to start an uprising and was apprehended before he could reach the mountains, but he became a recognized leader of the anti- dictator opposition.
" At the ensuing trial, Fidel undertook his own defense, mounting an attack on the dictator. He was given a sentence of thirteen years in prison but served only seven months. During Fidel's revolutionary struggle, his wife had been on the government's payroll. He could not fathom that, while he was dreaming of revolution, she had climbed into someone else's bed. He divorced her and she remarried. I wonder what kind of animal he had wanted her to become.
" In acceptance of the colored dictator's unpopularity, Fidel was eventually released from prison. I saw him in Miami, where he was demanding that every Cuban living and working in the United States donated one day of his monthly wages to help free the motherland -- again! Later, he moved to Mexico, always keeping in touch with those who were to create an uprising in Cuba at the time of his landing.
" After a faulty landing in eastern Cuba, Fidel managed to get to the hills with twenty men and a few weapons. He launched his revolution with the taking of a five-man garrison. Concurrently, other acts of rebellion were taking their course on the island. Fidel dreaded, more than anything, the removal of the mulatto dictator by means of a military coup by the armed forces, which would make him wholly irrelevant.
" The Cuban Army did not fight on behalf of the dictator and Fidel won. Even before coming down from the hills, he approved a law that would turn over to tenants, renters and squatters the land they worked. He was always willing to give away what wasn't his! He began entertaining eerie talks about some kind of revolutionary justice based on moral conviction and not on legal precepts --he had been a lousy lawyer. He was encouraged by the fact that no real democracy was possible for the poor and the hungry and began to exploit class and racial distinctions straightaway. If Nobel would have established an award for trouble making, Fidel would have won it.
" In his capacity of Máximo Líder (a title that had never been written into the Cuban Constitution) Fidel confiscated American businesses and President Eisenhower announced that the United States would not buy any more sugar from Cuba. He nationalized American banks and the USA began supporting every counter- revolutionary organization in Cuba. Later, he expropriated all foreign companies as well as Cuban industry, farms, commercial companies and, eventually, even coffee shops and taxicabs. The Kennedy administration stopped all trade with the island of Cuba.
" The United States' Central Intelligence Agency recruited disaffected Cuban nationals and planned an invasion of Cuba. It failed due to the inability of the small expeditionary force to secure a beach head from where American recognition and military assistance could be obtained. This made Fidel so happy that he boasted about his "victory over the United States" for thirty-five years. The highest point of his life, however, came when he let the Russians install nuclear missiles in Cuba to the strong objection of the United States and, on his account, the world was at the brink of an atomic war between the two superpowers. He would have liked to cause a major war so much! Years later, he still let the Russians establish a nuclear-submarine base in a Cuban port.
" Being so ruthless and mistrustful, Fidel has successfully met all challenges to ouster him. He desires power for the sake of power and he'll stop at nothing to be on the spotlight. Regardless of the failure of his economic policies and the fact that so many have left or want to leave the hell he has created, he will not part with the high command till death. He thinks of no one but Fidel. He watches his revolution deteriorate and blames others for the mess.
" Fidel knows his people well. He understands that his foes are greedy, unprincipled men like himself. He sees many other monsters- to-be looming in the horizon, and he laughs. He knows that those who oppose him most vehemently are envious men, just like he was before seizing power.
" Unfortunately, the Devil's work has already been done. Fidel has corrupted the thinking of the people with a morbid sense of equality, a shortage of accountability and an estrangement from reality. Since he is not very likely to be punished in life for his sins, let us ravage his memory with the truth.
http://www.uncommonknowledge.org/01-02/610.html http://www.uncommonknowledge.org/01-02/610.html
Sent : Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:43 AM
To : "robert register"
Subject : Re: Professor Alfred Brophy Now Appears On My New Weblog!
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John McWhorter: So, in other words--in other words, Al (Brophy), before--before the evil White man came, Africans were living in this period of beautiful Kunta Kinte roots harmony. They weren't killing each other, they weren't fighting each other, they weren't overrunning one another. As soon as the evil White man came, then the Africans were devoid of personal agency and started selling one another into slavery, which was the main way that slaves were caught. It was not a matter of going in and lassoing people while they were out on walks. Wouldn't have people stopped taking walks?
http://www.uncommonknowledge.org/01-02/610.html
http://www.uncommonknowledge.org/01-02/610.html
To : "robert register"
Subject : Re: Professor Alfred Brophy Now Appears On My New Weblog!
| | | Inbox
John McWhorter: So, in other words--in other words, Al (Brophy), before--before the evil White man came, Africans were living in this period of beautiful Kunta Kinte roots harmony. They weren't killing each other, they weren't fighting each other, they weren't overrunning one another. As soon as the evil White man came, then the Africans were devoid of personal agency and started selling one another into slavery, which was the main way that slaves were caught. It was not a matter of going in and lassoing people while they were out on walks. Wouldn't have people stopped taking walks?
http://www.uncommonknowledge.org/01-02/610.html
http://www.uncommonknowledge.org/01-02/610.html
Sunday, March 28, 2004
Robert,
Shabbazz's presentation in Havana "Black Panther Kuwasi Balogun’s Journey to
Anarchism and Guerrilla Warfare: An Exploration of International Influences to
the U.S. from Spain and Cuba." Southwest Council of Latin American Studies,
March 1998, is a true distortion of what happened to the Black Panthers in Cuba.
Almost all Black Panther leaders who sought "asylum" in Cuba, including
Eldridge Cleaver and Huey Newton, left there at the first opportunity and
denounced the Castro regime as racist.
As early as 1969, Black Panther Raymond Johnson was denouncing that he and
other members of his party were "isolated and imprisoned" in Cuba. (Miami
Herald, June 26, 1969, page 17-D)
Black Panther Tony Bryant, who hijacked a plane to Cuba in 1969, voluntarily
returned to the U.S. in 1980 and wrote a book denouncing racism as practiced by
the Castro regime and the situation of dozens of African Americans who were
imprisoned in Cuba.
Milwaukee Black Panther Garland Jesus Grant, who hijacked a plane to Cuba in
January 1971, was jailed twice in Cuba and beaten by prison guards, who stabbed
him in the eye with a bayonet. He voluntarily returned to the U.S. in 1978. The
Washington Post, April 26, 1977, quoted Grant in Cuba as saying: "Im living
like a dog in Cuba." He said blacks are treated badly. "There are more racism
problems here than in the worst parts of Mississippi." He said going to jail in
the U.S. wouldn't bother him. "Just open my cell door, and I'll walk in," he
said. Grant pled guilty o a 15-year sentence in 1978.
Black Panther Richard Duwayne Witt, who hijacked a plane to Cuba on September
18, 1970, also returned eight years later to voluntarily serve his sentence is
the U.S.
African American Robert Williams, who in the early sixties operated "Radio
Free Dixie" out of Havana to incite blacks in the South, also returned to the
U.S. and testified before a U.S. Congressional committee denouncing racism in
Cuba.
African American Gregory Alexander Graves, a U.S. Army deserter who hijacked
a plane to Cuba in 1971, returned to the U.S. in June 1975 to face a 20-year
prison sentence rather than remain in Cuba.
Three other African Americans, Henry Jackson, Jr., Melvin Cale, and Louis
Moore, who hijacked a Southern Airways jet in 1972, also voluntarily returned
to the U.S. in 1980 to face prison sentences.
The only black radical hijacker who remains in Cuba is Michael Finney, who
murdered a New Mexico state trooper in 1971. He faces a death penalty upon his
return.
Check out my website on hijackings to Cuba at
http://www.Rose-Hulman.Edu/~delacova/hijacking.htm
Here is a list of Fugitives In Cuba Wanted by the FBI
http://cuban-exile.com/doc_226-250/doc0226.htm
Maybe next time the Bush Administration allows another shipment of food to be
sold to the Cuban Government, they should ask for some of the fugitive cop
killers in return.
Tony
Quoting robert register :
> w:
> If you ever really want to lose weight, click on the following and it will
> make you so sick to your stomach you'll will either lose your appetite or
> vomit up whatever you may have in your belly.(while you read about Amilcar's
> great accomplishments, remember who paid for all this bullshit- the talk
> about Black Panthers in Cuba presented in Havana is the best as well as the
> articles printed in that Hip Hop Chronicle of Death and Disease known as The
> Source)
> http://www.as.ua.edu/amstud/azvita.htmhttp://www.as.ua.edu/amstud/azvita.htm
>
>
> saludos,
>
> roberto
# posted by roberto @ 4:28 PM
Saturday, November 08, 2003
Back to Cuba (from April ' 94
A black Alabama state representative, Alvin Holmes, is well known for his single-minded promotion of the interests of blacks. Earlier this year, when the state legislature was considering a bill that would make it easier for the state police to help deport foreign criminals, Rep. Holmes took particular aim at Cubans:
“They all ought to be sent back to Cuba, including the ones that aren’t in jail .... They don’t do nothing but hurt the blacks. They all ought to be sent back .... I wish every one of their citizenships would be taken.” Not to be thought prejudiced, Rep. Holmes went on to recommend that all people from Norway, Sweden, Ireland, France, Germany and El Salvador be repatriated too.
Besides his duties as a legislator, Rep. Holmes is a professor of history at Alabama State University.
http://www.as.ua.edu/amstud/azvita.htmhttp://www.Rose-Hulman.Edu/~delacova/hijacking.htmhttp://cuban-exile.com/doc_226-250/doc0226.htm
Shabbazz's presentation in Havana "Black Panther Kuwasi Balogun’s Journey to
Anarchism and Guerrilla Warfare: An Exploration of International Influences to
the U.S. from Spain and Cuba." Southwest Council of Latin American Studies,
March 1998, is a true distortion of what happened to the Black Panthers in Cuba.
Almost all Black Panther leaders who sought "asylum" in Cuba, including
Eldridge Cleaver and Huey Newton, left there at the first opportunity and
denounced the Castro regime as racist.
As early as 1969, Black Panther Raymond Johnson was denouncing that he and
other members of his party were "isolated and imprisoned" in Cuba. (Miami
Herald, June 26, 1969, page 17-D)
Black Panther Tony Bryant, who hijacked a plane to Cuba in 1969, voluntarily
returned to the U.S. in 1980 and wrote a book denouncing racism as practiced by
the Castro regime and the situation of dozens of African Americans who were
imprisoned in Cuba.
Milwaukee Black Panther Garland Jesus Grant, who hijacked a plane to Cuba in
January 1971, was jailed twice in Cuba and beaten by prison guards, who stabbed
him in the eye with a bayonet. He voluntarily returned to the U.S. in 1978. The
Washington Post, April 26, 1977, quoted Grant in Cuba as saying: "Im living
like a dog in Cuba." He said blacks are treated badly. "There are more racism
problems here than in the worst parts of Mississippi." He said going to jail in
the U.S. wouldn't bother him. "Just open my cell door, and I'll walk in," he
said. Grant pled guilty o a 15-year sentence in 1978.
Black Panther Richard Duwayne Witt, who hijacked a plane to Cuba on September
18, 1970, also returned eight years later to voluntarily serve his sentence is
the U.S.
African American Robert Williams, who in the early sixties operated "Radio
Free Dixie" out of Havana to incite blacks in the South, also returned to the
U.S. and testified before a U.S. Congressional committee denouncing racism in
Cuba.
African American Gregory Alexander Graves, a U.S. Army deserter who hijacked
a plane to Cuba in 1971, returned to the U.S. in June 1975 to face a 20-year
prison sentence rather than remain in Cuba.
Three other African Americans, Henry Jackson, Jr., Melvin Cale, and Louis
Moore, who hijacked a Southern Airways jet in 1972, also voluntarily returned
to the U.S. in 1980 to face prison sentences.
The only black radical hijacker who remains in Cuba is Michael Finney, who
murdered a New Mexico state trooper in 1971. He faces a death penalty upon his
return.
Check out my website on hijackings to Cuba at
http://www.Rose-Hulman.Edu/~delacova/hijacking.htm
Here is a list of Fugitives In Cuba Wanted by the FBI
http://cuban-exile.com/doc_226-250/doc0226.htm
Maybe next time the Bush Administration allows another shipment of food to be
sold to the Cuban Government, they should ask for some of the fugitive cop
killers in return.
Tony
Quoting robert register :
> w:
> If you ever really want to lose weight, click on the following and it will
> make you so sick to your stomach you'll will either lose your appetite or
> vomit up whatever you may have in your belly.(while you read about Amilcar's
> great accomplishments, remember who paid for all this bullshit- the talk
> about Black Panthers in Cuba presented in Havana is the best as well as the
> articles printed in that Hip Hop Chronicle of Death and Disease known as The
> Source)
> http://www.as.ua.edu/amstud/azvita.htmhttp://www.as.ua.edu/amstud/azvita.htm
>
>
> saludos,
>
> roberto
# posted by roberto @ 4:28 PM
Saturday, November 08, 2003
Back to Cuba (from April ' 94
A black Alabama state representative, Alvin Holmes, is well known for his single-minded promotion of the interests of blacks. Earlier this year, when the state legislature was considering a bill that would make it easier for the state police to help deport foreign criminals, Rep. Holmes took particular aim at Cubans:
“They all ought to be sent back to Cuba, including the ones that aren’t in jail .... They don’t do nothing but hurt the blacks. They all ought to be sent back .... I wish every one of their citizenships would be taken.” Not to be thought prejudiced, Rep. Holmes went on to recommend that all people from Norway, Sweden, Ireland, France, Germany and El Salvador be repatriated too.
Besides his duties as a legislator, Rep. Holmes is a professor of history at Alabama State University.
http://www.as.ua.edu/amstud/azvita.htmhttp://www.Rose-Hulman.Edu/~delacova/hijacking.htmhttp://cuban-exile.com/doc_226-250/doc0226.htm
AFTER BASKING IN THE GLOW OF THE FAILURE OF "CUBA WEEK" ORGANIZERS'S TO BRING THEIR FIDELISTAS TO TOWN SO THEY COULD MEET UP WITH CHARLES STEELE, I HAVE BEEN WAKENED FROM MY SLUMBER BY THE ACTIVITY OF ONE ALFRED BROPHY.
"ACADEMIC SHITHEADS" NOW PROUDLY PRESENTS THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MYSELF AND BROPHY.
SEE IF YOU CAN FIND THE WORD "APOLOGY" OR "REPARATIONS" IN ANY OF THESE DOCUMENTS.
TO PARAPHRASE "LYNYRD SKYNYRD", " I HOPE BROPHY WILL REMEMBER, A SOUTHERN MAN DON'T NEED HIM AROUND ANYHOW!!!!"
"ACADEMIC SHITHEADS" NOW PROUDLY PRESENTS THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MYSELF AND BROPHY.
SEE IF YOU CAN FIND THE WORD "APOLOGY" OR "REPARATIONS" IN ANY OF THESE DOCUMENTS.
TO PARAPHRASE "LYNYRD SKYNYRD", " I HOPE BROPHY WILL REMEMBER, A SOUTHERN MAN DON'T NEED HIM AROUND ANYHOW!!!!"
From :
Reply-To : abrophy@law.ua.edu
Sent : Monday, March 8, 2004 10:00 PM
To : robertoreg@hotmail.com
Subject : your research on slave quarters at UA?
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Dear Mr. Register,
Ben Windham of the Tuscaloosa News tells me that you've done
some important work on slave quarters on the UA campus. I'd be
most appreciative if you would point me to the place on your blog
where you discuss your work--or if you have a paper to share, I'd
appreciate that as well.
I'm giving a talk in a couple of weeks on slavery at the UA--based
largely on trustee minutes and Manly's diary, but also on Sellers
and A. James Fuller's biography of Manly and a couple of other
secondary sources. I'd like to add something on slave quarters.
Best wishes, Alfred
Alfred L. Brophy, Professor of Law
University of Alabama
101 Bryant Drive East
Box 870382
Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0382
Facsimile: 205.348.5829
Voice: 205.348.0841 abrophy@law.ua.edu
Reply-To : abrophy@law.ua.edu
Sent : Monday, March 8, 2004 10:00 PM
To : robertoreg@hotmail.com
Subject : your research on slave quarters at UA?
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Dear Mr. Register,
Ben Windham of the Tuscaloosa News tells me that you've done
some important work on slave quarters on the UA campus. I'd be
most appreciative if you would point me to the place on your blog
where you discuss your work--or if you have a paper to share, I'd
appreciate that as well.
I'm giving a talk in a couple of weeks on slavery at the UA--based
largely on trustee minutes and Manly's diary, but also on Sellers
and A. James Fuller's biography of Manly and a couple of other
secondary sources. I'd like to add something on slave quarters.
Best wishes, Alfred
Alfred L. Brophy, Professor of Law
University of Alabama
101 Bryant Drive East
Box 870382
Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0382
Facsimile: 205.348.5829
Voice: 205.348.0841 abrophy@law.ua.edu
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:19:45 AM | robert register | edit ]
From :
Reply-To : abrophy@law.ua.edu
Sent : Saturday, March 20, 2004 5:59 PM
To : "robert register"
Subject : Re: Opening a Can of Worms and Finding Rattlesnakes In the Bottom of It
| | | Inbox
Thanks, Robert. I appreciate your kindness in helping out--and
really appreciate that we can talk, even if we disagree on certain
issues.
I'm sorry we haven't had a chance to talk recently. As you might
suspect, it's been a busy couple of days, to say the least. You
around this weekend? I'm at the office now--348.0841.
Alfred
On 20 Mar 2004, at 17:30, robert register wrote:
Alfred:
I don't care to contribute to any apology to any group of dead
people or tohelp anyone with gittin' they respirations or with
digging up plaintiffs fo' dah U.S.Nigrah Claims Commission,
however, I believe a "public servants" research projectout to dah
UA would be good for everybody.
I was checking out Jerry Oldshue's article in the Oct. ' 77 issue
of The Alabama Review and found an interesting quotation from
the "Report of the Committee of Investigation, who were
instructed to inquire into the causes which have produced the late
Disturbances in and Decline of the University of Alabama,
August 12, 1837." [Special Collections, University of Alabama,
Tuscaloosa]
......they were the sons of "newly
prosperous cotton planters, pampered
in their childhood, given slaves to wait
upon them and sent off to college
equipped with an extravagant
wardrobe, and an extensive supply of
pistols, bowie knives, swords and
unlimited credit. Small wonder that
they raised the standard of rebellion."
best,
roberto
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:18:02 AM | robert register | edit ]
Robert,
Been getting hate mail all day--I don't think I'll answer my phone
at home tonight. Let's talk tomorrow.
Best, Alfred
On 16 Mar 2004, at 23:55, robert register wrote:
Professor wants UA apology for slavery
[For an exchange of emails between myself and Alfred over
the past week, click on
http://www.robertoreg.blogspot.com- Reg]
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:15:49 AM | robert register | edit ]
From :
Reply-To : abrophy@law.ua.edu
Sent : Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:50 PM
To : "robert register"
Subject : RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
| | | Inbox
Yes, it would be great, indeed! I bet that's possible.
Here's some other good news--went to the Tuscsaloosa
Courthouse after class this morning and found where Manly's 160
acre plantation was. It's off of Moody Swamp Road (which is the
extension of Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd.)--just over the line
from Tuscaloosa City. You up for a field trip? From the current
tax map, it doesn't look like it's developed right now, though there
appears to be a housing development near it.
Best, Alfred
On 11 Mar 2004, at 15:38, robert register wrote:
alfred:
I've seen those old photos but didn't realize they were on the
site. I'll pull them up after work.
I've got a feeling that some ofGarland's slaves stayed with him
after emancipation. Garland became President of Vanderbilt so
some of the descendents might be in the Nashville area. Wouldn't
it be wild if we could find descendents of slaves associated with
the University?
best,
rr
>From:
>Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
>To: "robert register"
>Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
>Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:42:02 -0600
>
>That's great!Great drawings.Have you thought about posting
>some of the photographs of the cabins, too? Glad you posted
your
>reseach on slaves here--that's immensely useful.
>
>I'm off to the courthouse after class for a title search....
>Best, Alfred
>
>On 11 Mar 2004, at 0:21, robert register wrote:
>
>Thanks for turning me on tothe drawings of the slave cabins in
>Witt's backyard. I posted them on Cuba, Alabama
>http://www.robertoreg.blogspot.com
>
> >From:
> >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> >To: "robert register"
> >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:12:22 -0600
> >
> >All good to know--Fuller does have the story that Manly would
>as
> >soon sell his slave as a horse, or something to that effect.I've
>got
> >to find the story about the Baptist mission in there....
> >I didn't get down to the courthouse today; I'll do that after
class
> >tomorrow.More shortly....
> >
> >On 10 Mar 2004, at 23:46, robert register wrote:
> >
> >Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's it. Walnut Bluff.
> >There have been many "female colleges" in Tuscaloosa. The
one
> >in the old capitol was called Central Female College. The one
> >located near thesoutheast corner ofthe intersection of
>University
> >Boulevard and Queen City Avenue was called Tuscaloosa
> >Female College. Pretty sure the woman who betrayed Manly
>was
> >the wife of the president of that institution. The neighborhood
>built
> >on the old college property is today called College Park. I
believe
> >it's the first left past University Boulevard on Queen City. The
> >incident at the Baptist Meeting occurred the first time Manly
ran
> >for election to the Home Mission Board in `1844. Pretty sure
> >Fuller includes a direct quote from the man who accused
Manly
> >of using whipping as a method of daily exercise.
> > And there was some other argument where Manly implied
that
> >he'd sell a slave the same as he would a horse. Forgot the
details
> >on that. Check out the story of Manly sending the incorrigable
> >slave to Mobile with a pass which allowed him to put himself
up
> >for sale. The slave ended up in New Orleans.
> > All those guys who Manly worked with in Chlarleston were
> >involved in the capture of Denmark Vesey and his
>revolutionaries.
> >All kinds of connections between the Charleston characters in
> >Fuller's book and this latest Denmark Vesey book.
> > Best,
> > rr
>
> >
>
> >
> > >From:
> > >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> > >To: "robert register"
> > >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> > >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:16:21 -0600
> > >
> > >Yeah, Fuller's very, very useful.Is it Walnut Bluff?I'll do a
>title
> > >search at the courthouse this afternoon, if I can get
> >away.Ought
> > >not to be too hard to figure out where it is....
> > >
> > >Now, the story about Manly whipping his slave--I've seen a
> > >reference in Fuller to the wife of the Tuscaloosa Female
> > >Academy, but I thought that story was about Manly saying
he
> > >was happy to sell slaves not whip them....(And I thought
the
> > >TFA was in the old capitol building--don't know about
Illusions
> >on
> > >Queen City.This is what I get for being relatively new to
> > >Tuscaloosa!)
> > >More shortly,
> > >Alfred
> > >
> > >On 10 Mar 2004, at 16:37, robert register wrote:
> > >
> > >alfred:
> > >Got a friend with a super metal detector and I gotta sixth
>sense
> > >about looking for bottles so we oughta have some fun.The
> > >plantation ismentioned a lot in Fuller. Wasn't it called
Chestnut
> > >Hill? There are tons of huge Swamp Chestnut Oaks down
the
> > >river from here. No chestnuts but plenty of chestnut oaks.
> > > Alfred, it can be argued that the seeds of the Civil War
were
> > >sown in Tuscaloosa. Manly got one of his best friends the
> > >presidency of the Methodist Girls School here(It was
located
> > >behind the head shop, Illusions, on Queen City). The
President
>of
> > >the girls school was married to a Yankee! (all of this is
>detailed
> >in
> > >Fuller). Well, about 1844, Manly is nominated to the Home
> > >Mission Board and at the National Baptist Convention, this
> > >Yankee gets up and says something like," I have it on good
> > >authority from a well respected Tuscaloosa woman that Dr.
> > >Manly gets up every morning, goes out into his yard, takes
off
> >his
> > >shirt and whips his slaves for daily exercise."
> > > Manly went through the roof and the next year the Baptists
> >split
> > >(They have never rejoined) and then all the other religions
>split
> > >and we were on the road to a terrible war.
> > > Hasta,
> > > roberto
>
> >
> > >
>
> >
> > >
> > > >From:
> > > >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> > > >To: "robert register"
> > > >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> > > >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 08:43:31 -0600
> > > >
> > > >Robert,
> > > >
> > > >Thanks so much!Some of this I've seen before in Sellers--
>but
> >a
> > > >lot of this I haven't, especially Roberts' biography.All
very
> > > >interesting, most especially about the slave quarters!I'll
>start
> > > >tracking down some of that stuff, especially the letter
>Mellown
> > > >cites.I'll also run a title search to look for Manly's
>plantation.
> > > >Maybe we can do a field trip together one of the these
days.
> > > >Got your other letter, too.
> > > >Best, Alfred
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 10 Mar 2004, at 3:45, robert register wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Alfred:
> > > > I live in Northport and work for Pake Realty on
University
> > > >Boulevard. I caught the fish in a farm pond just west of
the
> >new
> > > >bridge on the west side of town.
> > > > The Board of Trustees never owned many slaves. I
would
> > > >guess four or five at a time and they were a pain in the ass
> > > >because of all the holidays. As soon as school let out, all
the
> > > >professors started pushing the steward around in order to
get
> >his
> > > >slaves to work on their pet projects plus the steward
wanted
> > >them
> > > >to work on his pet projects.
> > > >I have identified four categories of slaves associated with
>the
> > > >University:
> > > >1) Slaves that the students brought from home. Check out
>the
> > > >biography of Oran Milo Roberts in Special Collections.
> >Roberts
> > > >brought his slavePrince toTuscaloosa in 1833 when he
> >entered
> > > >the Universityand hired him out in town to pay college
> > >expenses.
> > > >Roberts also says that the straw that broke the camel's
back
> >for
> > > >Dearing occurred when studentskidnapped one of
hisslave
> >girls
> > > >and brought her to campus.[ Dearing built the University
>Club
> > >and
> > > >the big house across from the post office off of 21st
>Avenue].
> > > >Students attacked Dearingwhen he came looking for his
> > > >girl.Students' slaves weren't allowed on campus but
>students
> > > >lodged them in town and hired them out for a profit.
> > > >2) Slaves owned by faculty and the President. These
>servants
> > > >were often hired by the University. Barnard's slave was
his
> >lab
> > > >assistant. Manly mentions that Barnard's Morgan
> > > >pimpedBarnard's Luna to the students "who they use in
> > > >greatnumbersnightly." Luna may be Barnard's servant
girl
> >who
> > > >was so brutally raped by the student at Ole Miss.
> > > >3) Slaves owned by Tuscaloosa citizens and hired out the
the
> > > >University. This was the most common form of slavery
and
> >I'm
> > > >not sure how many records exist. The wild thing was
>Garland
> > > >impounding all the slaves in Tuscaloosa during the war to
>build
> > > >earthworks over by the present-day police station. He
>caught
> > >holy
> > > >hell from Tuscaloosa and the Governor forced him to stop.
> > > >4) Slaves owned by the Board of Trustees.
> > > >Check out the local papers for the first week of January
>each
> > > >year. There really wasn't what you would consider a slave
> > >market
> > > >here but January 1 was called "Hiring Day" and the sheriff
> > >would
> > > >have estate sales on the courthouse steps and slaves
would
>be
> > > >sold the first week in January. Lots of ads for this in
> >Tuscaloosa
> > > >papers.
> > > >Random thoughts...
> > > >Slave clothing included Cottonade coats & pants, flannel
> > > >coats,summer vests, summer hats, winter coats, shoes,
>slippers
> > > >Board for a slave $3 month- board for a horse 4 to 5
dollars
> >per
> > > >month
> > > >Carpenters hired at $2 per day. William, owned by H.S.
>Pratt,
> > > >was so skilled at building desks and bookcases that he
> >demanded
> > > >more and had to be paid under the table because his rate
>was
> >so
> > > >high.
> > > >Dr. Rueben Searcy, whose doctor's office was located in
>the
> > > >present day Alabama Grill on Greensboro Avenue,
charged
> >the
> > > >Board of Trustees for 33 office visits for Moses over a
>period
> >of
> > > >3 months in 1857.
> > > >Moses (a.k.a. "Preach") was bad to drink and fight. They
> > > >threatened to sell him so he got religion. From a Mobile
> >Tribune
> > > >article 1859. "I say, Preach, what are you going to do
when
> >the
> > > >devil gets you?"
> > > >"Wait on the students," Preach replied.
> > > >1844: Trustees curtailed use of slaves during vacation by
the
> > > >Steward. Top priority holiday work:receiving coal,
cleaning,
> > > >whitewashing
> > > >Underground Railroad!!!! In 1852, Professor Scherb found
> > > >runaways sleeping in Room 18 of Franklin Hall west of the
> > > >present day Gorgas Library.
> > > >Sam, owned by the Board, beat Tom who had been hired
>from
> > > >Alex Glascock. Glascock's house on 21st avenue has just
>been
> > > >renovated. Gatozzi Valuations is located there now.
>Glascock
> > > >shows up in Sellers' History of the First Methodist Church
of
> > > >Tuscaloosa.
> > > >Garland started out with 3 but soon had 60. His women
> >refused
> > >to
> > > >be sold to the owner's of their husbands so Garland had to
>buy
> > > >their husbands.
> > > >Student abuse:
> > > >1837: Henry Elmore chastised servant and then called
>before
> > > >faculty. Elmore signed an apology.
> > > >1842: Student admonished "for chasing a Negro through
> >campus
> > > >during study hours."
> > > >1843: 4studentsdragged a servant out ofa professor's
yard
> >and
> > > >abused and injured him for sport.
> > > >Foster and two students beat the President's negro so
badly
> >that
> > > >herequired surgery.
> > > >I have where Smithused Supreme Court lawyers to
>overcome
> > >his
> > > >indefinite suspension for abusing servants.
> > > >1845: Ben Saffold got a Presidential admonition after
>stabbing
> > > >Moses in the arm with a table fork.
> > > >1846:A.P. Robinson hitMoses with a crutch for not
bringing
> > >food
> > > >to his room. The student had to pay $1.50 per day for a
> > >substitute
> > > >while Moses recovered. University students could not
send
> > > >servants on errands, get food,etc, for them even when ill.
> > > >1845:Milton Saffold beat Sam for insolence when Sam
> >refused
> > >to
> > > >scald a bedstead. This was Milton's third offense and "he
>must
> > > >leave Tuscaloosa in the stage which departs for Selma this
> > > >evening." This kid probably had a long history of abusing
> > >servants
> > > >before he arrived in Tuscaloosa.
> > > >June 1850: 6 students and Barnard's Morgan stole Moses's
> > > >chickens.
> > > >Check out John Massey, Reminiscences(Nashville,
>Methodist
> > > >Episcopal Church,South, 1916)
> > > >Check out Letters of Landon Garland
> > > >In Richard Thigpen's January,' 81 article in The Alabama
> > > >Review,"The Four Public Buildings of The University of
> > >Alabama
> > > >to Survive the Civil War", he never mentions the four slave
> > > >cabins. Thigpen served as an interim President of the
> >University.
> > > >quote from Manly, "there is no set of men in Alabama that
I
> > > >would sooner be a slave ["slave" is underlined] to ( if I
must
>be
> >a
> > > >slave) [this parenthetical phrase is also underlined] than
the
> > > >Trustees."
> > > >Manly had two slaves named Lydia. This will confuse you.
> >Also
> > > >there's a good chance that some of Manly's slaves knew
> > > >Denmark Vesey.
> > > >The Junior Class students in Washington Hall collected
$75
>to
> > >hire
> > > >Barnard's slave so they could have experiments. I have a
>note
> > > >"Could this be Johnson?" I have another card which says
> > >Johnson,
> > > >owned by Barnard, was discharged when Sam was hired.
> > > >Levi, a little negro boy, (page 174 of Manly's diary)
January
> >10,
> > > >1840 Jan. 10 received from Father in Law Rudulph of
> >Lowndes
> > > >County, Ala. Born April 5, 1825 "This boy is intended as a
>gift
> > > >and is to be my property. My father in law purchasing his
> > >[family]
> > > >came under some obligation to liberate each of them at the
>age
> > >of
> > > >25 years provided the laws of country should admit
> > >emancipation.
> > > >After liberating the mother in 1821, she got into trouble
and
> >great
> > > >need and came back to her master to offer herself as his
>slave
> > >for
> > > >life, since which time Levi was born."
> > > >Larrey, given to Manly by his father, served as Manly's
body
> > > >servant.
> > > >Manly, Taxed for a riding chair [could this be a sedan
>chair?]
> > > >Manly quote,"I have 8 negroes over 10 years of age and 8
> > > >negroes under 10; but these are not considered taxable
>under
> >the
> > > >charter of the university."
> > > >Serena, born of Lydia #2 b. October 31, 1846 ; died of
>cholera
> > > >May 27, 1849
> > > >$150 allowed by Board of Trustees for hiring aservant.
> >"suitable
> > > >servants could not be got for less than $200"Professor
>Pratt's
> > > >Scipio and Peter hired for $200 each. "If the board of
>trustees
> >do
> > > >not pay the additional $100, the Faculty are to do it out of
the
> > > >money deposited for contingencies by the students, and
>subject
> > >to
> > > >our control" [interesting use of student activity fees]
> > > >June 28, 1841[ Source: New Building Fund- Money Paid
>Out]
> > >Jim
> > > >owned by J.A. Prattt hired for 10 days at 70 cents per
day.
> >May
> > > >22, 1841 paid Ms. Pratt $140 for hire of carpenters
William
> >and
> > > >Jim.
> > > >Boysey(proper name William) November 22, 1843 Mary's
>son
> > > >died of whooping cough at daylight 7 years old [from
>Manly's
> > > >recipe book-description of the case and prescription.
Funeral
> > >was
> > > >in the President's Mansion and he was buried by the
present
> >day
> > > >Biology building on the same afternoon]
> > > >Cory- Garland's carriage driver who drove Mrs. Garland
and
> >the
> > > >girls to the edge of the woodswhen the University burned.
> > > >Drish's colored man June 9, 1841 [New Building Fund]
"paid
> > >Wm.
> > > >Drish (colored man) for various jobs of brick work- such
as
> > > >setting iron chimney backs, laying hearths, repairing
arches,
> >and
> > > >filling up scaffold holes under colonnade before plastering.
> >Cash
> > > >$8.50
> > > >Jack, died May 5, 1843- died of pneumonia before 2
o'clock
>in
> > >the
> > > >afternoon -Manly,"He was an African, a member of the
> > > >Methodist church- honest and faithful- did as much and as
>well
> > >as
> > > >he knew how."
> > > >First Sharecropping: 28Manly slaves on the Tuscaloosa
> > >plantation
> > > >sign a contract on June 20, 1865, for the production of 10
> >acres
> > >of
> > > >corn each.
> > > >The Arthur negroes sold students peanuts, candy and
>tobacco.
> > > >Tuscaloosa slaves also sold possum dinners door to door in
>the
> > > >dormitories.
> > > >Frederick Thomas, English professor, drunk on a
steamboat
> > > >coming up from Mobile. On brandy and opium, he grabbed
a
> > >slave
> > > >girl and took her to his cabin. Dismissed from the
university.
> > > >Dr. Stafford's Archie " sold mean whiskey to students"
and
> > >rented
> > > >Dr. Stafford's carriage and horses to students for the
night.
> > > >Well Alfred, that's enought info for tonight. Hope you
enjoy
>it.
> > > >
Best,
> > >
> rr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >From:
> > > > >Reply-To: abrophy@law.ua.edu
> > > > >To: "robert register"
> > > > >Subject: RE: your research on slave quarters at UA?
> > > > >Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 19:34:54 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > >Sorry I didn't write a longer message this morning; I was
> > >writing
> > > > >before hearing off to class--very much looking forward
to
> > > >hearing
> > > > >about this all.Manly's diaries are pretty interesting,
> >huh?It's
> > > > >hard to figure out exactly how many slaves were
working
>at
> > >UA
> > > > >at any one time--there're some references to them in the
> > >trustee
> > > > >minutes and in Manly's diaries, but it's hard to get a good
> > >picture
> > > > >of them, it seems.
> > > > >Nice picture of the catfish.
> > > > >Do you live around Tuscaloosa?
> > > > >Best, Alfred
> > > > >
> > > > >On 9 Mar 2004, at 15:44, robert register wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >Hey Great!
> > > > >Not much on the blog but that will change soon. I have
> > >identified
> > > > >many slaves who worked on campus and I have
>investigated
> > >the
> > > > >Barnard affair at Ole Miss.I'll put all this together for
you.
> > > > >Thisstory of slavery at the university is a common
theme
>at
> > > > >U.Va., UNC,College of S.C., UGA and Ole Miss.
> > > > >The Gorgas Library has a great book on slave cabin
> > >archaeology
> > > > >at one of Jefferson's plantations.
> > > > >
> > > > >Manly's group of slaves increased to the point where he
>had
> >to
> > > > >build a plantation in order to work all of them.
> > > > >Also the Garland slaves may have accompanied Garland
>to
> > > > >Vanderbilt after the war.
> > > > > More later.
> > > > > rr
[ Sun Mar 28, 08:11:42 AM | robert register | edit ]
Alfred:
I am not very organized but I gotta start somewhere....
Go to Gorgas and get Louis Friedman Herzburg's Negro Slavery in Tuscaloosa County, Alabama, 1818- 1865 (1955) [T 378 H447n1955]. It's not checked out and it's one of the only works to follow up on Sellers.
If you wanna know about slave archaeology (there's a well below the floor of Slave's Cabin #2 [the gardening tool house] and test pits outside all windows and doors of all four cabins should produce results) get Barbara Heath's Hidden Lives:the archaeology of slave life at Thomas Jefferson's Poplar Forest (E 332.74 .H43 1999)
Get a copy of Mellown's "The President's Mansion at The University of Alabama"(Alabama Review, July ' 82) Robert cites a letter in the Governor Arthur P. Bagby Papers, Alabama State Department of Archives and History, Montgomery. This letter (Dr.Basil Manly to Gov. Arthur P. Bagby, March 11, 1840) Quoting Mellown," Manly gave complete instructions for the interior and exterior details of the buildings in his letter to the governor." If you get this letter, please make me a copy.
Mellown states that only #1 and #4 served as slave quarters but I argue that slaves lived in all four.
Ironies concerning the 4 slave cabins:
The University does not claim that these four antebellum buildings survived the burning of the University by the Yankees. The water to put out the fire inside the Mansion came from #2. The University considers the four buildings to be dependencies of the Mansion so instead of 8 buildings surviving the fire, visitors are always told that 4 buildings(The Mansion, the Observatory, The Round House, and the Gorgas House) survived.
When the parking lots are clear, you can stand where Wallace stood in front of Foster, look over your left shoulder and see the east wall of Slave Cabin #4 ( Peggy and Dot were Sorensen's maids and I think Dot is still there. They have the keys to the 4 buildings)
Manly did not identify the four buildings on his survey map of the University(see Illustrated History of U. of A.) and they are, as far as I can tell, the only buildings on campus not identified on present day University campus maps.
You can do some pretty good population studies from the information available. Manly slaves multiplied quickly. Let me know if find out where Manly's Tuscaloosa plantation was located. I would think that it would be on the river in the direction of Moundville.
Check out the Faculty minutes because slaves are mentioned frequently because students were disciplined for attacking them. I'm pretty sure that the only times that students were disciplined was when their attack disturbed the peace or injured the slave to point where medical treatment was needed. I believe you could look into the lives of the worst offenders and find that they had tormented their own family's servants.
Of course slaves worked Marr's Field but the Board of Trustees purchased their first slave in 1828. This slave,Ben, worked with the architect but he was sold after work was completed.
Pretty sure you'll find that Board preferred to hire slaves from town rather than owning them, however, in 1860, Bama decided to go whole hog and really get into the slave trade when they sent George Benaugh to Lynchburg with $7000 to buy slaves ( letter- Benaugh to Henry Snow August 21, 1860)
More later. Gotta go pick my son up at Scouts.
best,
rr
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Sorry I didn't write a longer message this morning; I was writing
before hearing off to class--very much looking forward to hearing
about this all. Manly's diaries are pretty interesting, huh? It's
hard to figure out exactly how many slaves were working at UA
at any one time--there're some references to them in the trustee
minutes and in Manly's diaries, but it's hard to get a good picture
of them, it seems.
Nice picture of the catfish.
Do you live around Tuscaloosa?
Best, Alfred
AFTER BASKING IN THE GLOW OF THE FAILURE OF "CUBA WEEK" ORGANIZERS'S TO BRING THEIR FIDELISTAS TO TOWN SO THEY COULD MEET UP WITH CHARLES STEELE, I HAVE BEEN WAKENED FROM MY SLUMBER BY THE ACTIVITY OF ONE ALFRED BROPHY.
"ACADEMIC SHITHEADS" NOW PROUDLY PRESENTS THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MYSELF AND BROPHY. SEE IF YOU CAN FIND THE WORD "APOLOGY" OR "REPARATIONS" IN ANY OF THESE DOCUMENTS.
TO PARAPHRASE "LYNYRD SKYNYRD", " I HOPE BROPHY WILL REMEMBER, A SOUTHERN MAN DON'T NEED HIM AROUND ANYHOW!!!!"
"ACADEMIC SHITHEADS" NOW PROUDLY PRESENTS THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MYSELF AND BROPHY. SEE IF YOU CAN FIND THE WORD "APOLOGY" OR "REPARATIONS" IN ANY OF THESE DOCUMENTS.
TO PARAPHRASE "LYNYRD SKYNYRD", " I HOPE BROPHY WILL REMEMBER, A SOUTHERN MAN DON'T NEED HIM AROUND ANYHOW!!!!"
WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS THE PLEASURE I REALIZED WHEN I READ THAT THE KNUCKLEHEADS AT BAMA COULDN'T GET THEIR PRECIOUS LITTLE FIDELISTAS INTO OUR GREAT COUNTRY.
AN EDITORIAL FROM THE TUSCALOOSA NEWS.
Time to lift travel barriers to Cuba
November 24, 2003
The University of Alabama’s Alabama-Cuba Conference, which concluded last week, was a great success.
World-famous art historian Robert Farris Thompson of Yale University danced the mambo. Mobile Mayor Mike Dow toasted trade. A film festival screened some fascinating Cuban movies rarely seen in this country.
The festival offered a little of everything one could hope for -- everything, that is, except Cubans.
The university had hoped to bring 18 Cuban artists, academics and officials to attend the conference, the first of its kind at the Capstone. Because of travel restrictions between the nations, however, only three of those Cubans could attend.
The lost opportunity for interaction and cultural exchanges with the Cubans is disheartening but hardly unique to the university’s event. The Border Security Act, an anti-terrorism bill enacted in 2002, has been used indiscriminately by the Bush administration to make it difficult even for academics and artists from Cuba to travel to the United States.
Bush, moreover, has vowed to veto any bill by Congress to lift the restrictive ban on travel by people from this country to Cuba.
The rigid restrictions may play well in Miami, but they don’t make much sense. Not only has the decades-old travel ban has failed to shake the government of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, but it also is manifestly unfair to Americans, who can travel to North Korea but not Cuba.
Restricting travel by Cubans to this country, even to participate in educational and cultural exchanges, is similarly shortsighted, for the friendly interaction that would result would surely prove to be an effective tool for Cuban democratization.
AN EDITORIAL FROM THE TUSCALOOSA NEWS.
Time to lift travel barriers to Cuba
November 24, 2003
The University of Alabama’s Alabama-Cuba Conference, which concluded last week, was a great success.
World-famous art historian Robert Farris Thompson of Yale University danced the mambo. Mobile Mayor Mike Dow toasted trade. A film festival screened some fascinating Cuban movies rarely seen in this country.
The festival offered a little of everything one could hope for -- everything, that is, except Cubans.
The university had hoped to bring 18 Cuban artists, academics and officials to attend the conference, the first of its kind at the Capstone. Because of travel restrictions between the nations, however, only three of those Cubans could attend.
The lost opportunity for interaction and cultural exchanges with the Cubans is disheartening but hardly unique to the university’s event. The Border Security Act, an anti-terrorism bill enacted in 2002, has been used indiscriminately by the Bush administration to make it difficult even for academics and artists from Cuba to travel to the United States.
Bush, moreover, has vowed to veto any bill by Congress to lift the restrictive ban on travel by people from this country to Cuba.
The rigid restrictions may play well in Miami, but they don’t make much sense. Not only has the decades-old travel ban has failed to shake the government of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, but it also is manifestly unfair to Americans, who can travel to North Korea but not Cuba.
Restricting travel by Cubans to this country, even to participate in educational and cultural exchanges, is similarly shortsighted, for the friendly interaction that would result would surely prove to be an effective tool for Cuban democratization.
